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Offline Lynnya

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Hat question (posted two times by accident) computer glich
« on: April 15, 2022, 10:31:15 AM »
Good morning all!  I'm starting work on this image and need some input please.  I'm seeing three different style hats.  On the left (screen) it looks to me like a turned back cloche/flapper type (no brim) angling down towards the ear.  The middle is clear enough. On the right it looks to me like a soft larger brimmed woven type of hat. Like a bucket hat with a soft brim. These hats I've attached are different I know but you get the idea..

 The thing is... DH seems to think they are all wearing the same style of hat in different ways.. I totally disagree with him but would like to know what you see.  All the hats seem to have flowers on them. Maybe the owner can tell us.








« Last Edit: April 15, 2022, 10:51:57 AM by Lynnya »
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Re: Hat question (posted two times by accident) computer glich
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2022, 12:25:18 PM »
Looks like three different styles to me also. Good luck!

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Re: Hat question (posted two times by accident) computer glich
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2022, 07:48:07 PM »
I think DH is wrong - three different styles is what I see. Brims center and right are definitely not the same design.

I don't think either of the hats you posted are what they're wearing - I saw the long pearls and thought 1920s but the dresses are clearly not 1920s so I don't think  there's a cloche hat. I definitely see the wavy - but very small - brim on the woman on the right..

I drew some outlines over the other two women - partly based on what I saw, and then filling in a few edges that "must be" given these have to connect. I think these are quite small and simple hats with some similar decorations (flowers) but three different styles. It almost looks like a fancy dress party hat, not something from a hat shop, but that's only a thought because the center woman's hat looked like white straw with a very rough edge at the front, underneath the brim.




I think there's some bleeding of flowery colors on the front of the hat of the woman on the right, but possibly you could stick a flower up front in case there was something there?

Edited to add that I looked until my brain shut off with hat overload - I'm just not seeing anything similar :(  I'll look some more to see if I can find anything online that resembles the hat on the left. It's almost tiara shaped at the front, but I think there's a crown to it, so not exactly.  Hope this helps - it may just make things more confusing!

What do you think about all the creases in the dress of the woman on the left? It's odd to have a posed photo in formal clothes with something that so badly needs ironing...
« Last Edit: April 15, 2022, 08:26:01 PM by Jo Ann Snover »
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Re: Hat question (posted two times by accident) computer glich
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2022, 10:45:53 PM »
Sure am enjoying the progress you all are making.
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Re: Hat question (posted two times by accident) computer glich
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2022, 10:18:22 AM »
Thanks guys.. yes your take and outlines pretty much line up with my assessment of it all... perhaps I should iron the dress just a tad? Will post my wip in a couple of years...
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Re: Hat question (posted two times by accident) computer glich
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2022, 06:04:51 PM »
So I still have a lot to do but this is where I'm at.. if you look at the original I do believe the hat is a wide brimmed.. I can see the shape of the brim to the right of her eye.. it makes more sense to me.. there is nothing in the channels which means I have to paint/draw which I'm not so good at.  As I said, still a lot to do, shadows... details etc.... comments welcome any help appreciated.


   
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Re: Hat question (posted two times by accident) computer glich
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2022, 07:21:14 PM »
I thought some drawing/cloning over your WIP might make my suggestions more clear than wordy descriptions, so...



I like your hat brim, but I slightly changed it to fit as I think it would have to given the shape of the brim in front. I assume you'll take care of the blown-out whites on the woman's dress, so I left that alone. There were several parts of the women's arms that didn't look right so I changed those. I also thought that the woman on the left looked a bit lopsided and droopy-eyed, so I adjusted those - again as best I could given what I can see as adjusted to make something coherent, roughly symmetrical, etc.

See what you think
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Re: Hat question (posted two times by accident) computer glich
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2022, 11:22:53 AM »
Yes thanks JoAnn.. I thought her eyes were a bit droopy also but to me on the original they look a bit that way.. I went too far maybe.. thanks for the arm..will address that today..and the eyes..looking at it again I think that new arm is a tiny bit fat.. I'll redo with the shape tho.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2022, 11:26:19 AM by Lynnya »
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Re: Hat question (posted two times by accident) computer glich
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2022, 12:04:48 PM »
Who is ever going to complain that a photograph made them look thinner? :)
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Re: Hat question (posted two times by accident) computer glich
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2022, 07:10:03 PM »
What next... I'm crossed eyed...


   
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Re: Hat question (posted two times by accident) computer glich
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2022, 07:56:20 PM »
Other than some edge tidying (skirts that need a smooth edge) I think the colors look a bit ghoulish - probably a result of the damage. I used a couple of adjustment layers on top of your WIP to make people look a little more alive :) See what you think



If you want the adjustment layers, let me know & I'll put them online
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Re: Hat question (posted two times by accident) computer glich
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2022, 08:00:51 PM »
Yes please that would be great! Thanks

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Re: Hat question (posted two times by accident) computer glich
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2022, 08:02:49 PM »
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UfXPsWQ5dmrr1HgssTNpCMTX13k5N_66/view?usp=sharing

Ignore the gray background layer (that just keeps the file size small). Shift-drag the adjustment layers into your image and they should line up as the file dimensions are the same size.

Note that the masks are very much quick & dirty - you'll want to tidy them up if you use them :)
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Re: Hat question (posted two times by accident) computer glich
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2022, 08:26:04 PM »
Thanks JoAnn for all your help.. appreciate it.  Got it... very cool... thanks again.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2022, 08:29:23 PM by Lynnya »
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