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Author Topic: B&G with friends  (Read 3378 times)

Offline Jo Ann Snover

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Re: B&G with friends
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2019, 04:11:36 PM »
I see bright spots on the bodice too. Off the top of my head I can't think of a reason you can't see them, but sorting out the why - more than fixing the picture - seems really important.

The only thing I can think of is that your monitor brightness is too high and that the "normal" whites and "bright spots" thus look the same on your screen. But if that were the case, why are you only just seeing a problem?

Did you just upgrade something - monitor, software, monitor profile?
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Re: B&G with friends
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2019, 04:13:37 PM »
Mary, for this method you reduce the opacity when you paint and then reduce the opacity of the layer that you painted on as well. Does that help? I sampled the dress on the main part for the color. Here's the spots I was referring to.



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Re: B&G with friends
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2019, 04:40:05 PM »
If you look at this test chart, can you see each square separately on your monitor:

https://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/Calibration/monitor_sensitivity.html
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Re: B&G with friends
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2019, 04:51:56 PM »
Holy Kamoly!! It's my monitor!  Thanks you so much for catching this.  I'll work on setting it correctly and check out the white spots.  Goodness.

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Re: B&G with friends
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2019, 06:00:32 PM »
Well, I calibrated my monitor but want to really get into it.  Please take ANOTHER look.   I don't trust anything anymore.  I can't tell about the bodice and arm.  Does it look ok?
BTW, what monitor would you guys recommend?  Those Eizo's look very pretty.
Thanks for everything.

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Re: B&G with friends
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2019, 07:00:03 PM »
Glad you figured out where the problem was. I think the big problem with the bride's gown is that it's flat - no highlights or shadows. The satin fabric was very shiny. I did the quickest of cleanups of the original damage on the skirt of her gown and then overlaid a layer with that in luminosity mode over your restore to give back some of the highlight/shadow data. The bodice and sleeve are also without depth/sheen, but that'd take more fixing - I wonder if Bambi has one of the already restored images that could help?

See what you think of this, compared to the above



You could do shadows & highlights by drawing on a layer versus using the original; I just thought this might be easier
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Re: B&G with friends
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2019, 07:03:43 PM »
As far as recommending a monitor, some of that depends on what else you do with your equipment - are you involved in color sensitive work outside of OPR? Eizos are very good but not cheap. My most recent purchase (last year) was BenQ 2700PT. I've read good things about the Dell Monitors (I think) that are capable of calibration, decent quality and reasonable price.
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Re: B&G with friends
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2019, 07:25:54 PM »
I actually have a Dell.  I just bought a SpyderX Pro that will hopefully solve things. 
Iíll do some more work on the gown.  🤓

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Re: B&G with friends
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2019, 07:40:03 PM »
There are lots of Dell Monitors though. Here's one (there are more out there) of the comparison articles

https://www.creativebloq.com/buying-guides/best-monitors-for-photo-editing

Unless you think your monitor is dying or seriously deteriorated in its ability to hold its brightness and colors, perhaps just regular calibration is all you need?
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Re: B&G with friends
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2019, 09:41:49 PM »
Thatís what Iím thinking. Stay tuned.  Thanks Jo Ann.

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Re: B&G with friends
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2019, 06:09:59 PM »
My goodness this has certainly been a learning process.  Jo Ann that luminosity tip was terrific.
I received my Spyder and hopefully my monitor is calibrated as it should be.
Please take a look again. 
Thanks for everyone's help.
Mary


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Re: B&G with friends
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2019, 06:54:03 PM »
So there are no more white spots - you have no idea how tempted I was to start out with a story of strange yellow marks...but I remembered I'm supposed to be an adult and behaved myself :)

The bride's dress is very bright, especially the bodice, so there's no detail of the lace that covers it (no satin as there is on the sleeves). Possibly you can bring the highlights down just a hair so there's some visible detail in the bodice fabric?

The only other thing that caught my eye was the carpet at the bottom of the step - there's some odd wandering in the seam where the bottom of the riser meets the main floor.

Other than that it's looking great
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Re: B&G with friends
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2019, 07:28:05 PM »
Yeah,  I never know if itís too bright or not.  Iíll try to tone it down.  Funny,  when I first started this journey,  I took some of the lace detail on the bodice  from the ďcutting the cakeĒ picture and pasted it in sections on this bodice.  Of course thatís probably where the white spots came from.  I could try that again?
Iíll take care of the wandering carpet.

Oh and thanks for keeping the yellow spots to yourself. 🤓

Offline Jo Ann Snover

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Re: B&G with friends
« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2019, 08:16:09 PM »
The healing brush is often great for making textures - fabric or carpet, best with just tones, not lots of colors - onto a painted surface. This is just an example, using one of my own images



For maximum flexibility have everything on separate layers, with the one where you're making the texture above the others (and the healing brush set to Current & below). You can see how in the examples the colors of the painted area are retained as the texture is added to it.

The other thing is that you can use the rotation settings for the healing brush to flip a source around to make the right lace piece appear at a different angle when you apply its texture. The angles are like a clock, so 90 degrees is turning the object to the right and -90 to the left. You can also increase/decrease the size as you heal, which means a little source pattern can go a long way, especially if the area isn't front and center and very visible.
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Re: B&G with friends
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2019, 07:02:53 PM »
Hi there.  I used your healing technique, Jo Ann, with a sample from the "cutting cake"  picture.  I didn't see any lace detail on the bodice on the original so I hope my rendition is ok.  On the "cutting cake" picture there was a v shaped section under the bodice as a continuation of the lace.  Again, it didn't show up in the original so I didn't know if I should try to add it or not.
SOOO, what do you think?