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Title: Serious Gentleman in Margie's Forum
Post by: Lynnya on November 16, 2016, 08:38:13 AM
Off and running again with this fantastic image.. my plan (yes I have another plan.. been around Shadow too long) is to do black and white, sepia and also one without the painted red tie (and one with the red tie).. I can't help it, can't stand looking at that red tie..

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-3gsx2FS/0/X2/i-3gsx2FS-X2.jpg)

For the background which is such a mess.. I selected most of it but not tight around the head and body and filled it with the original color (whiteish) then I added noise 2.45 (a lot) then pixelate mosiac 2 to bring the background back to more it's original texture.. no noise or texture to the man.  Then I cloned around his head and body. Starting repairs to his face and suit working down with the spot healing tool. I don't want to lose the texture. I'll make the tie red at the end.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-HRFtvTP/0/X2/i-HRFtvTP-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: Serious Gentleman in Margie's Forum
Post by: JackR on November 16, 2016, 02:40:08 PM
Lookin' good, off to a great start...nice background...
Title: Re: Serious Gentleman in Margie's Forum
Post by: Lynnya on November 16, 2016, 03:18:48 PM
Thanks jack 8) it's a great picture to work on.
Title: Re: Serious Gentleman in Margie's Forum
Post by: Lynnya on November 16, 2016, 04:32:02 PM
o.k. struggling a bit here.. feed back welcome.. is the sepia too dark??

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-N52gX4q/0/L/i-N52gX4q-L.jpg)  (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Z6SzdVt/0/L/i-Z6SzdVt-L.jpg) 
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NVgv5c3/0/L/i-NVgv5c3-L.jpg)(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-MV9bVKT/0/L/i-MV9bVKT-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Serious Gentleman in Margie's Forum
Post by: Shadow on November 16, 2016, 05:38:43 PM
Hi Lynn, that sepia is tricky business, huh? This is just my opinion ... the sepia is fine. Not too dark at all. Which method did you use? For some reason, I often find myself drawn more to the B & W. As much as I enjoy these old photos, the sepia we add back (all of us) seems a bit lackluster. Not sure how to explain it.
Excellent job with the background and thank you for sharing your steps! Great tip for us. Nice pinky too!! Maybe darken the area underneath it? Look at your first screen shot and go from there. And would your texture technique work on the fold in his pants just down and left of his right hand (looking at the screen)? On my screen it is a wee bit soft.
And I am with you on that tie! What do think the deal is with that? Really sticks out. Maybe it was painted on later? Like how you included the different possibilities.
Very nice Lynn!!  :up: :up:
Title: Re: Serious Gentleman in Margie's Forum
Post by: Mhayes on November 16, 2016, 06:55:46 PM
Lynn, I like the black and white the best, but upload both when you are done. The tie needs to stays in and stay red. I think someone colored it and that may hold a special meaning--maybe some inside joke. There is no bleeding of the color off the tie, so it should kept as the original was intended.

Nice work and tutorial.

Margie
Title: Re: Serious Gentleman in Margie's Forum
Post by: Lynnya on November 17, 2016, 08:32:22 AM
Thanks Shadow and Margie.. Shadow thanks for your good eye.. the sepia method was I think the wrong method.. I'll try Margie's method today and see how it looks... I did Deke McClellends method of new blank layer, fill with solid color (from the originalish) and blend mode multiply.. it's very drab and kicks out the highlights I think.. not good.. also will address the shadow under finger and soft pants..

Margie I'll fix the tie :up:

here are my new WIPS using Margie's sepia method.. better I think.. hmmm or is it too yellow..standby..

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-bfWVSVN/0/L/i-bfWVSVN-L.jpg)  (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-3s4ZRrs/0/L/i-3s4ZRrs-L.jpg)
lighter sepia

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-V4wDkv8/0/L/i-V4wDkv8-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Serious Gentleman in Margie's Forum
Post by: Shadow on November 17, 2016, 09:36:43 AM
Hi Lynn. Like M's Sepia Method (or MSM for short  ;) ) better than Deke's on this one. I don't think it's too yellow but that's just me. Look forward to seeing your final!
Title: Re: Serious Gentleman in Margie's Forum
Post by: Mhayes on November 18, 2016, 02:16:55 AM
Lynn, I like #1 and #3. Ready to upload, very nice.

Margie
Title: Re: Serious Gentleman in Margie's Forum
Post by: Shadow on November 18, 2016, 10:22:16 AM
Another beauty Lynn!
Title: Re: Serious Gentleman in Margie's Forum
Post by: JackR on November 18, 2016, 10:50:52 AM
Great restore, I like the lighter sepia too, though I think I like the B&W best... :up:
Title: Re: Serious Gentleman in Margie's Forum
Post by: Lynnya on November 18, 2016, 11:05:28 AM
Thanks Margie Lyn and Jack  :) it was strange.. I'm sure we all do it but you kinda get to know your subject a bit when working so closely on them? with this gent I was quite freaked out by the end of it lol don't know why, just the way here was staring the whole time... :-\
Thanks for all the great feedback, it really seems to make the difference to a better restore.  :hug:
Title: Re: Serious Gentleman in Margie's Forum
Post by: Shadow on November 18, 2016, 11:22:55 AM
Totally agree ... some of the stars of these pics stay with you. Your serious guy was really concentrating on being still I guess. And agree with you on the feedback!   :)