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OPR Workshop Information Exchange => General Techniques => Topic started by: Marydh on January 04, 2010, 05:47:06 PM

Title: Just curious
Post by: Marydh on January 04, 2010, 05:47:06 PM
Do most of you start a restoration by tackling the hardest part first and then going to
the easy stuff or the other way around?
Thanks.
Mary
Title: Re: Just curious
Post by: kiska on January 04, 2010, 06:42:26 PM
I do levels and curves first. Then go to background and work "forward".
Title: Re: Just curious
Post by: Hannie on January 04, 2010, 07:00:38 PM
Same as Kiska.
When I do damage repair part of the subjects I often start with the easiest parts first, then the difficult part. 
When I'm done I zoom in about 200% or more and check out the whole image for any leftover damage, cloning marks etc.

Hannie
Title: Re: Just curious
Post by: Mhayes on January 04, 2010, 10:33:51 PM
Ditto for me! Color correction is always first and then I think it depends on the photo as to what you want to tackle next, or if you want to take 2 aspirins and go back to bed.  ;)
Title: Re: Just curious
Post by: glennab on January 05, 2010, 02:32:58 PM
Hi Mary

Great question! If I need to try to define obliterated areas, I do my channel surfing and channels manipulating first.  Color correction is next.  Then I look at the overall mess and decided whether there are areas that can quickly be cleaned.  I usually do those first and then work my way into the more damaged parts.  I save the "impossible" parts for last, just in case while I'm working on the rest I come up with some "genius" idea to clean up the worst of the worst.  Sometimes works, sometimes not. Often at that point I get frustrated and scribble.  Then I lose an evening's work and have to go back and be more civilized toward my task the next day.  But that's almost always the order in which I do my restorations.

Cheers!

GK
Title: Re: Just curious
Post by: MB on January 05, 2010, 07:55:35 PM
Are you asking the newbies?  I usually start with the most difficult part, the color correction comes last.  Am i doing it backwards? 
Title: Re: Just curious
Post by: Johnboy on January 05, 2010, 09:51:13 PM
I usually start with color correction. Sometimes that lessens the restoration needed in some areas, and sometimes not. Then I try to get rid of the spots with the healing brush and or the patch tool. Sometimes there is an area that really bugs me and I'll jump to that, but overall I try to work from the easier tasks to the more difficult.

Johnboy
Title: Re: Just curious
Post by: Hannie on January 06, 2010, 06:18:59 AM
MB, doing color correction last is a bad idea.  Color differences, cloning marks, damage spots will appear that you could not see before the color correction.
When you look on your left on this page there is the Official OPR Handbook.  When you click on it you will find valuable illustrated information how to go about color correction.

Hannie
Title: Re: Just curious
Post by: schen on January 11, 2010, 09:17:32 PM
I start with color/tone adjustments then start on the center of the focus.  For portraits, I start with face and do background last.

I am not sure there is a right way or wrong way to start.  My work flow might have been influenced by Chinese ink painting, the only art training I had.  Chinese ink sticks to rice paper or silk and does not wash off, therefore, Chinese painting traditionally started with the main subject and developed into the background.  It is the opposite of European water color.
Title: Re: Just curious
Post by: Ausimax on January 13, 2010, 01:11:16 AM
I usually start by trolling the channels to see what info is available there, then I colour correct the image - what I do next depends on each image, if there is a lot of vague detail I will work on the cleanest part first - I find that the more you look/work on an image the more detail tends to resolve out of the mess.

I have often found that something I at first thought was something particular, later resolves to be something entirely different once you really start to read the image.

That said I often start with the background and work my way into the image, other times if the main subject looks real difficult I will start with that, I figure there is little use in spending a heap of time on the "easy" stuff to then find I can't get the hard bit done.

I don't think it makes any difference how you work as long as you achieve the desired result in the end.

Max
Title: Re: Just curious
Post by: Hannie on January 13, 2010, 08:21:34 AM
Max, where did your nice cat avatar go?

Hannie
Title: Re: Just curious
Post by: Ausimax on January 14, 2010, 10:31:18 PM
Hannie,
The photo hosting site where my avatar resides has apparently been having some problems and it must have become disassociated, I renewed the link and it's back. :up2:

Max
Title: Re: Just curious
Post by: Mhayes on January 14, 2010, 10:35:52 PM
Max,

I thought maybe your cat was like in Harry Potter where the figures in the pictures on the wall take leave for awhile.

Margie
Title: Re: Just curious
Post by: Hannie on January 15, 2010, 07:02:56 AM
Maybe Max's cat is the famous  "Walkabout Cat"  (http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/pets/2009/09/16/2009-09-16_australian_cat_named_clyde_roams_3_years_covers_2400_miles_over_land_and_water_t.html)!  :)

Hannie