Broad shoulders, Does not look right

weewood · May 28, 2008, 10:57:47 PM

I know that this picture has broad shoulders, but according to the original, it actually looks this way. I'll need to do further work, but wonder what you guys might have to say. All comments acceptable......

klassylady25 · May 28, 2008, 11:30:39 PM

I see that the neckline differently and the way that she is sitting. Also, the chair has been changed.
I overlayed the original and the drawing is of the form of the dress I saw when doing so.

Here is what I see in the picture:

kiska · May 29, 2008, 06:58:19 AM

Maybe she's sitting at a table and her left arm is kinda spread out with hand resting on the table?

weewood · May 29, 2008, 12:32:44 PM

Quote from: klassylady25 on May 28, 2008, 11:30:39 PM
I see that the neckline differently and the way that she is sitting. Also, the chair has been changed.
I overlayed the original and the drawing is of the form of the dress I saw when doing so.

I originally went with a "V" neck, but did not think it looked right. I make another attempt. Also, I thought that was a headboard for a bed, not a chair. Oh, well, back to the drawing board.

Ausimax · May 29, 2008, 11:52:45 PM

Choosing photos like these are similar to hitting yourself over the head with a hammer! It feel so good when you stop! :funny:

There surely isn't any detail in the damage that can really help, not that my tired old eyes can see anyway, only thing is the neckline, she appears to have a tie of some sort around her neck ( perhaps from a shawl?) and a "V" neck in the dress below.

Have heaps of fun. >:D

Max

weewood · June 02, 2008, 03:56:14 PM

Well, I've come up with another rendition of this photo, and hope you like it, but by all means let me know if you don't.

weewood · June 02, 2008, 05:31:04 PM

I decided that I did not like the lastest rendition because the polka dots were not uniform, so I changed. Now let me know what you think. All comments welcome. :cool:

Hannie · June 02, 2008, 07:00:45 PM

Hi David,

You have done a lot of work on this one already, I noticed you also got rid of the red eyes! There is one thing, I'm wondering why you add the shadow behind her head on the wall? (The reason I ask is that now the lady appears a little bit like a cut out stuck on the photo.)

I'm also wandering about what Kiska said before that the lady may be leaning towards the table with her lower left arm forward on the table thus giving us the impression that she is very broad. When I look at her face and neck I don't think she is that broad and Kiska is right.

I know, this is not much help is it, just a lot of comments! Maybe you will get a more constructive suggestion from one of our expert friends!

:loveit:

Hannie

weewood · June 02, 2008, 07:58:01 PM

I removed the shadow, I just thought it was a good accent. As far as Kiska's thoughts about leaning over a table, that might be, but I don't know how to make it look right. And I really hate to assume that, when the gal's neck is broad. I was trying to make it look like she was standing side ways. :)

Hannie · June 02, 2008, 09:17:09 PM

I see what you mean David. What if the color of the shirt were a little more neutral with less highlights and a little more shadows? It looks like the original shirt was almost white.

Hannie (who shouldn't be up so late)

weewood · June 03, 2008, 03:50:54 AM

Hannie, I think the original shirt, blouse or dress was a dull yellow, but not as dark as you have made it. I'm afraid that your photo draws the eye to the shirt, blouse, or dress, instead of the whole photo. Don't you ever sleep?

David (who's going to bed, and will try and not think about this).

Hannie · June 03, 2008, 04:08:24 AM

Good morning David (or better: good night!)

Early this morning 2 of my grandchildren were there. active and awake so no more sleep for me! (they are sweet though!)

I see what you mean about the shirt, I made it too dark, maybe you can tone down the color in your version just a little?

Hannie

Pelican · June 03, 2008, 05:52:03 AM

I really have to go with kiska's thought of the elbow being propped on a table or something. This is what I saw the first time I looked at it. It really makes the broad shoulder look less broad. I'm only judging from the one visible arm.

klassylady25 · June 03, 2008, 08:39:52 AM

The sketch plays into what I saw, with her right arm being just a wee bit broader. Pencil out about 1/4" more on our left...and see what that looks like.

GP · June 03, 2008, 01:43:36 PM

It probably does not matter all too much, but I think "she" might be a "he"judging by the eyebrows. It looks like one of the pictures from the '70s when all men had long hair. Pelican's sketch looks very realistic to me.
Tough restoration, David. You seem to like a good challenge. You do great work!

Gerlinde