I have tried and tried to see what sort of suit he is wearing and for the life of me I just cant see it...I was thinking with the tie it might be a tux but I can't see for sure...maybe someones eyes here can pick it up?
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/Sanbie2/orgsm.jpg)
Sanbie
From what I can make out it looks like a plain black Tuxedo/suit?
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6663/sanbieeh8.th.jpg) (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sanbieeh8.jpg)
Sanbie, with my tired old eyes I'd say you where right. It looks to me like a tux to me.
Third times a charm... it's a tux.
Tux. You can tell by the collar and the bow tie band around his neck.
I'll make it a 5th, Sanbie. It's a plain tux with a wrap-around bow(?is that what it's called with a tuxedo?) tie. I downloaded him and played with color and found that when you correct for his skin tone the "halo" of junk around him becomes very green. I was able to diminish the awful color and the bit of yellow on his hand by using selective color and backing way off on cyan and yellow in in the green pull-down -- also diminished the yellow and added a tad of magenta in the yellow to compensate for the splotch on his hand. The background is beautiful, even with the "dreaded" vignette, which works wonderfully in this instance. Perfect setting for such a handsome young guy!
I look forward to watching your progress on this one.
Bless
Glenna
Ok this is what I am up to now...This is the 4th time I have started on him as when I get to this stage I am never happy with him!!! ...you have to realise this is just a very small copy of the 20x16 original!
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/Sanbie2/MelerineDsmall.jpg)
Sanbie
Hi Sanbie,
I've been trying to teach myself about color channels and did some faffing around with your little original. The blue channel was pretty well mangled - it is the custodian of most of the worst damage. I did a channel mixer and substituted the much better green channel for most of it and then redid the curves. This is the result. I don't know how but it magically revealed his true skin tone?
MJ
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff264/Charlene5_photos/orgsm.jpg)
Mmm yeah I knew the blue channel was mangled...I took it into the channel mixer and did what you did but I downed the red also..I will go try again!
Thanks for that!
Sanbie
Sanbie
You did a great job. How in the world did you do this so quickly? What a whiz!
A couple of picks: My first impression when I look at him is that he's blue. I think his skin color needs to be warmed up considerably, and he needs to have the blown-out areas on his face darkened. I also see a few splotchy areas around his chin and lip where you had to get rid of the yukky color. I think his hair's a bit too red, but the detail is gorgeous. When I was playing around with the original I couldn't get the hair that defined and keep the skin color looking natural. He may need a bit of masking and tweaking but you're certainly doing him justice!
(I just copied your image, went to curves and used the eyedroppers, which helped a lot! I used the white dropper on the collar above his tie, the gamma on the ring where it's closest to his finger, and the black point at the lowest left portion of the image. He still had a bit of a color cast; this time too warm. I didn't get any further, but I wonder if one of the photo filters would take care of that reddish tinge. Worth a try.)
Glenna
P.S. I couldn't stand it. Had to tweak a little more (all I did was go to variations and click on the image with more cyan). Here's what I got: It's still not totally correct but on its way. When I post the image it doesn't appear exactly the same as what I see when I have the file open. On line it looks a bit blue in the highlights.
(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n222/glennab-fla/MelerineforSanbie.jpg)
Here's my original tweaked version:
(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n222/glennab-fla/adjusted-forSanbie.jpg)
:funny: I wish I was that fast glenna :funny: I was already working on this doing a tux when I kept looking back and forth to the original thinking is it a tux???? So thought I would post it here for confirmation!!
Ok now how do I do those steps in psp???
Sanbie
Sanbie, forgive my ignorance, but what's psp? Paint Shop Pro? If so, I know absolutely nothing about that software or how it compares to Photoshop, which is the only photo editing program I've ever used.
I knew about variations, but picked up a bit more about their usefulness while studying my tutorials on CS2. What it gives you are thumbnails of the image showing the original, and thumbnail versions with different colors added to the highlights, mid tones and shadows. You can click on any version that you think looks better than the original and designate it as your "new" original. What I especially like is that you can set it up to show solid colored areas that indicate where your colors will be clipped because of gamut issues. You can not only pick a version that suits you, but you'll know if all your colors will be true.
Deke McClelland, who hosted the tutorials, emphasized several functions that I don't use much but plan to from now on. And he's the first guru I've ever heard speak highly of using selective color, which I do all the time at work -- and it helped a lot with your young man. Selective color allows you to choose a specific color, whether RGB or CMYK and increase or decrease the amount of any hue, including white and naturals, in each individual color, rather than a channel. It comes in handy more times than I can count! Especially when you have weird colors like the green and yellow in your restoration. Since there was little of either in the rest of the image, it was easy to back off of those two without affecting the important colors.
If you have any functions like those two in psp, experiment with them. They're great. Do you have the black, white and gamma (grey) eyedroppers? That's the first thing I use when trying to correct a photo with a drastic color cast like this one. But then there are so many ways to do all these things -- I think what really matters is what works for you.
I still think you're a whiz kid! You roar through these restorations. I'm envious!
Goodnight!
Glenna
I do have photoshop but I can never work it...I learnt with paint shop pro (yes psp)and find it difficult to swap over..and when I go to save and it comes up with a box asking me what type I want to save it as..I think from memory it says compressed and something else...I never have a clue...so just close out of there...
I do have cs2 so where do I find these variations...I remember seeing them somewhere!!
I will go off and have a play and see what I can come up with...as I would like to get the colour right before trying to finish this off!!
Sanbie
Sanbie I learned on PSP6 and still have 9 on my computer. I still use the push tool and and I can't figure out how to transfer my favorite gradients to Photoshop CS2. It was a struggle switching over - took me about 2 months I think? - but now I'm real comfortable with it. All of the familiar PSP tools are there - it was finding them that was the killer! :)
MJ
I go to find something and for the life of me I can't find it...But I will keep practising off and on...
Ok is the colour looking better now?
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/Sanbie2/MelerineDsmall-1.jpg)
Sanbie
Sanbie, you did such a great job restoring this one, the colors are very hard to correct! So far I like MJ's skin tone the best, maybe a step by step how to for that one?
Hannie
Thats looking very good Sanbie. :up: They'll be glad to see him restored. Maybe select around him and either adjust his colour up or the background down a bit on saturation? The colours are so similar its a tough call.
I tried to do that Tess but the whole lot changed ... I will try something else...Oh and I also tried Mj's and couldn't get it the same...That is how I got what I did though...
Ok back to the drawing board!
Sanbie
Have you tried selecting the guy, copying, adjusting the colour of the background then pasting him back into the selection? I wouldn't worry too much, they'll probably do a bit of colour correction before printing. (http://209.85.48.9/867/137/emo/hug1.gif)
Oh I did get his colour a bit better and sent him home!
Sanbie