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Title: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 14, 2018, 04:58:45 PM
I've been looking at this image for a while and avoiding it... I caved in - she's so sweet.  I did a selected color correction and will tweak again later.. comments on skin tones etc welcome ..also.. do you think the white pompom looking things on each side of here head are damage? I'm leaning that way ...but they do wear pompoms quite a bit... what say you...

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-tBgmJPt/0/613a73f0/XL/i-tBgmJPt-XL.jpg)  (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ZcRBgqR/0/32975b14/XL/i-ZcRBgqR-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Bambi on March 14, 2018, 06:41:36 PM
 :up: Skin ones look good for now. So glad you're working on this one.
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Shadow on March 14, 2018, 06:46:19 PM
I'm with Bambi ... so glad you are working on this one. Color looks good so far. Now that you mention it, they do wears those little pom pom pins. Maybe Margie can find out? Or, you can do whatever looks best to you?
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: coopmj on March 14, 2018, 07:05:12 PM
I'd love to know your workflow on this.  Please post often as you go--good luck!

Mary
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Mshake on March 14, 2018, 07:40:29 PM
Yeah, I've been looking at that one too. I decided to pass on it, I'm not as brave as you.

Skin tones and the overall color looks good to me too.

I have no idea on the pom pom, I would have thought it was damage if you didn't point that out.

I'm going to follow this one too to see what magic you can do here.

Mike
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: kiska on March 15, 2018, 03:20:42 AM
I think the pompoms are hair clips to hold the hair away from the face.
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 15, 2018, 09:45:39 AM
Thanks guys for input.. always valuable.. So, I have a plan.. the background is shot so my first thing will be to reconstruct the background.  I'll try to match the colors underneath and keep the original next to it to constantly match.  I'll do this on an empty layer and when done will add noise, blur a tad, pixelate/mosiac a tad (these are technical terms by the way) - and sometimes if it looks fake I'll add another layer of texture with a soft light blend mode and reduce the opacity to nearly nothing for a realistic portrait background.  Then I'll start on the chair  :cool: wish me luck please gang...
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: jesterjeni on March 15, 2018, 10:20:16 AM
the hair may be something like this-boy you know how to pick them!
(https://s26.postimg.cc/x6e1cgm9x/lkbooj.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x6e1cgm9x/)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 15, 2018, 10:41:39 AM
Hi Jeni... yes something similar I think.. I think she might have poms on each side and her hair is very fine and thin... it'll be a challenge for sure... she has little fringey bangs as well... thanks for input  :up:
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: jesterjeni on March 15, 2018, 11:01:40 AM
I will definitely be   watching for your progress!!
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 15, 2018, 02:43:52 PM
OK... I really don't like posting half done work but here goes...

The background consists of blank layer with lots of clipping masks for that construction only... added noise etc and added a free background texture in soft light.. also created a new layer with 50% gray soft light blend mode and rendered a light source behind her and to the right.. not too much.

The chair is on a sep. layer .. just guessing what it looks like.. I know it's got some pink in the back.. blurred it some, changed the color and darkened it some and created a shadow behind her with clipping mask on the chair layer only..still lots to do in terms of shadows etc but now I'll start on dress maybe..
comments and critiques always welcome..

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-4PpXNQp/0/95f7d7a4/X2/i-4PpXNQp-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: jesterjeni on March 15, 2018, 02:57:55 PM
woowsers!! beautiful so far!!!
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 15, 2018, 03:35:57 PM
Thanks Jeni... I'm really lovin doing it  :loveit:
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 15, 2018, 04:12:32 PM
quitting  for  the day.....out for a beverage  :P

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-hmhSprS/0/9950e893/X2/i-hmhSprS-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Candice on March 15, 2018, 04:27:49 PM
You're doing a wonderful job!
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Marydh on March 15, 2018, 04:34:26 PM
Holy Kamoly Lyn!  What a great job so far.  Yeah, like others I kept looking at it and saying to myself, "No way".  So glad you took the leap.  She is precious.
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Shadow on March 15, 2018, 07:17:16 PM
Enjoy that beverage ... you are well on your way!
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 17, 2018, 11:00:49 AM
Calling all skin tone experts... struggling along with this image... still a long way to go.. blouse, hair, hand etc.. I'm having trouble with the skin tones.. any help greatly appreciated...

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-S3Bj89v/0/2ae22cff/XL/i-S3Bj89v-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Shadow on March 17, 2018, 11:23:05 AM
Don't think you are too far off Lynn. I tweaked the blue channel a bit for the RGB numbers. Kiska is the CMYK guru and can probably offer a better solution. Good luck.
A little lagnaippe ...
http://varis.com/2014/04/22/color-correction-4-skin/     
https://www.popphoto.com/news/2007/05/tip-day-skin-tones-numbers

(https://s17.postimg.cc/7bh20tlh7/2018_03_17_Sweet_Girl.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7bh20tlh7/)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Candice on March 17, 2018, 11:24:08 AM
Better than I could do!  Wonderful work!
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: kiska on March 17, 2018, 11:43:31 AM
Did basic levels, curves. I then added a color layer to tone down the magenta in the chin/neck area. I used a good cheek color and gradually built it up.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/64tk6esez/Screen_Shot_2018-03-17_at_10.39.37_AM.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/64tk6esez/)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 17, 2018, 11:48:20 AM
Thanks Kiska... now lets see if I can do that .. and thanks shadow for your tips...
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Mshake on March 17, 2018, 12:19:00 PM
Fantastic job and you got some great tips.   :up:
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 17, 2018, 12:50:43 PM
Thanks Mike I was hoping you'd chip in.. your colors are always good lol.... I used Kiska's flow (same as mine actually) and then the color build up but could not get the same result.. I then when to Shadows link for Asian skin tone numbers which actually turned her into a pumpkin but the tone was somewhat good.. anyhow I did a color layer sampling that color and built up.. still not there yet but need input please..Hannie where are you  :'(

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-B9V2F9s/0/e9385ece/XL/i-B9V2F9s-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 17, 2018, 01:03:29 PM
losing it now... :crazy:   the colors are more vibrant on my screen.. like the background etc..

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-B9V2F9s/0/e9385ece/XL/i-B9V2F9s-XL.jpg)

Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Mshake on March 17, 2018, 03:48:23 PM
I hope you don't mind, I was curious and wanted to see what it looks like if you brightened up the background overall. Then I played with the skin tone. With a color balance layer I added some more yellow in the highlights, midtones, and shadows. (I might have overdone that). I also felt she was a little too bright so I did a levels layer for just her skin tone to add some more contrast, again maybe a tad too much but it gives you an idea of what I was thinking.

I also darkened some of the edges of her hair and along the top of the chair. I personally think that makes her blend better with the background.
(https://s13.postimg.cc/bl8553iw3/i-_B9_V2_F9s-_XL1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bl8553iw3/)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 17, 2018, 03:59:39 PM
Hi Mike.. no I don't mind at all... always grateful for more input.. I took your advice and lightened the bg some.. it's brighter on my monitor.. I think the images lose a little in translation.. also darkened the chair.. I may tackle the skin again tomorrow.. I've lost the plot for today lol..

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-nspDNzZ/0/5038b472/XL/i-nspDNzZ-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: jesterjeni on March 17, 2018, 05:36:29 PM
wow! looking awesome- I simply cant wait for the finished product!!!
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 18, 2018, 03:12:01 PM
ok... I've adjusted the cmyk numbers so that magenta and yellow are more the same on her skin..I'm not sure where to go to from here.. any help or comments appreciated..the actual image is more vibrant in reality ..

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8vSr2C9/0/1cfe3d4a/XL/i-8vSr2C9-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: kiska on March 18, 2018, 03:27:44 PM
On the brightness layer, I painted the forehead out.


(https://s9.postimg.cc/3lz4xnbfv/Screen_Shot_2018-03-18_at_2.26.01_PM.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/3lz4xnbfv/)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 18, 2018, 03:29:30 PM
thanks Kiska.. will follow..
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 18, 2018, 03:40:58 PM
I think that does it  Kiska.. followed your numbers to the tee.. this is the result..I'm happy with it if you are...

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-VMb5V55/0/5ede2502/XL/i-VMb5V55-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: kiska on March 18, 2018, 03:57:58 PM
Lookin' mighty fine!
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 18, 2018, 04:04:25 PM
Thank you... I'm happy now.. :wnw: thanks for all your help.. learned a lot..
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Hannie on March 18, 2018, 04:06:21 PM
Very small pick in your otherwise amazingly beautiful restore Lynn, perhaps her hair is a little wider at the side with some curls at the ends? 

(https://s13.postimg.cc/vtwft9q9v/curly.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vtwft9q9v/)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 18, 2018, 04:28:17 PM
Thanks Hannie.. will fix..
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Mshake on March 18, 2018, 04:36:42 PM
This came out great Lynn!  Skin tines look beautiful, job well done.  :wnw:
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 18, 2018, 04:41:16 PM
Thanks Mike.. Kiska helped me a lot...
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 18, 2018, 04:43:05 PM
Here she is with fuller hair and flips  :)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-pBt2X3p/0/36bef1c0/XL/i-pBt2X3p-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Hannie on March 18, 2018, 05:25:53 PM
Beautiful Lynn!

:up:
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 18, 2018, 05:28:30 PM
Thanks Hannie and all for help.. really needed it on this one... always a good education hey?? :up:
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Shadow on March 18, 2018, 08:07:06 PM
Shocking what you were able to do with this one. Beautiful skin tones Lynn! Wee little thing ... the arm in front. Needs a little something where the fabric meets the skin?
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: jesterjeni on March 18, 2018, 09:30:37 PM
simply beautiful!!
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 19, 2018, 09:22:23 AM
Thanks Jeni and Shadow.. and yes shadow you are right... love those eagle eyes - will address that :hug:
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: coopmj on March 19, 2018, 09:38:15 AM
This is fabulous!!
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Lynnya on March 19, 2018, 10:33:07 AM
Is this better Shadow?

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-GZmQdr2/0/25ca75c2/XL/i-GZmQdr2-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Shadow on March 19, 2018, 10:51:17 AM
(https://s17.postimg.cc/fbizzebtr/applauding_bravo.gif) (https://postimages.cc/)
Title: Re: Sweet Girl
Post by: Marydh on March 23, 2018, 02:38:16 PM
Yowza!  Fantastic!