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Title: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Lynnya on October 25, 2016, 09:43:56 AM
Hi All,

I've decided to torture myself with this image... wish me luck and see you in about a year..... :crazy:

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zr23d2T/0/X2/i-zr23d2T-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Hannie on October 25, 2016, 09:45:25 AM
Lynn, you are so brave...

 :wnw:

Hannie
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Lynnya on October 25, 2016, 09:50:25 AM
We'll see how brave I am Hannie  :D I might be callin on you to bail me out :wnw:
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Shadow on October 25, 2016, 10:05:45 AM
Lynn, Oh My!! Good luck!!!
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Lynnya on October 25, 2016, 10:25:38 AM
Thanks Lyn... that's a lotta cloning and healing  :wow:
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Shadow on October 25, 2016, 10:49:55 AM
We'll be keeping an eye out for your WIP and the final masterpiece!  Lynnya aka Cloning Healing Queen  :wow:
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Shadow on October 25, 2016, 12:27:05 PM
Lynn, Check out this link on FFT tweaks.  http://www.skeller.ch/ps/fft_action.php   I tried it and found that running FFt in RGB Mode and then switching to Lab (without flattening layers) Copying FFT layer and then using Median Filter on Lightness channel of that layer it helped a lot with the texture. Can't show you right now cuz PBucket is misbehaving. Anyhoo ... thought you might find it interesting.
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Candice on October 25, 2016, 01:38:09 PM
Two words:  Oi Vey!
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Mhayes on October 25, 2016, 01:46:21 PM
Well Shadow, hope we see you sooner than a year, or this post last for a year? Look at the bright side-- it will keep you off the streets and out of trouble.  ;D I think you will do just fine.

Margie
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Lynnya on October 25, 2016, 03:42:29 PM
I still have a ton of work to do on this image... I'm going out for a beer :crazy:  I'm not too happy with it  :-\ HELP!!

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zr23d2T/0/L/i-zr23d2T-L.jpg)  (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-rzj6649/0/L/i-rzj6649-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Shadow on October 25, 2016, 09:17:26 PM
Hi Lynn, you have brought this image a long way! You probably already saw this ... the lady's arm has an area near her bicep that may be a bit bright. (It's that dreaded skin again  :knuppel: ) Know how challenging that texture is to work with & you are doing good work with it. On your monitor, did the purplish areas in the lady's top look more like damage? Her top looks more solid in your WIP. Maybe take a look at the man's sleeve near his hand ... not sure but I think there's a bit of a shadow in the original at that spot? Your WIP blows me away. You go girl!!
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Lynnya on October 26, 2016, 07:43:57 AM
Hi Lyn,

thanks for your feedback.. always appreciated.  I still have a ton of work to do on this image.. it's about half done I think.. the lady's arm and all the skin really I haven't really gotten going on.. terrible color on the arm.. the dress? well, I wondered about that but the purple stain seemed to me to be damage.. I runs into the arm as well.. if it's not I can add the purple back in last.. I need to fix the mans hair, still lots of damage and add some shadows in many places.. It looks rather "painted" to me but maybe it'll improve with some texture at the end.. I planned on using Phlearns texture on her arm and maybe face a bit.. I would show my WIP layers.. but you'd be horrified and run screaming....
Thanks again and don't be afraid to critique.
Lynn
p.s. you know what?? I just looked at this image again and I think I'm going to almost start over... too blurry, too soft.. too painted..  :P
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Shadow on October 26, 2016, 09:22:13 AM
Good Morning Lynn. That Phlern ...  :loveit:  The Puppet Warp can be useful when you are lining stuff up and warp isn't getting it done. Ck out the video below. The tip about changing to density & more (for the pins) made it a tool I use quite a bit. See what you mean about looking a bit painted. Knowing you ... you will fix that. Bet your layers are not as horrible as you think. Would sure like to know your steps for diminishing the texture! Eager to see your next wip post. 

http://photoshopcafe.com/use-puppet-warp-tool-photoshop-tutorial/
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Lynnya on October 26, 2016, 09:24:56 AM
Hi shadow, our posts just crossed.. I think I'm going to go way back in my wip... almost start over... i'ts over worked and blurry.. :cool:

maybe from here?? Hannie any suggestions??

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-b5CM8xv/0/XL/i-b5CM8xv-XL.jpg)(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-t7vTq5f/0/XL/i-t7vTq5f-XL.jpg)
Now I'm not sure... is this damage.. I think so... what do you guys think..I think here dress is solid like the skirt part..

I used fft filter first (didn't do a whole lot) then I actually healing brushed each nasty little bit out at 200 percent sizing.. nearly went blind..I'm not going to let this beat me.. :knuppel:
Thanks for the video link.
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Shadow on October 26, 2016, 10:03:14 AM
Hey. Did you try that trick of extending the canvas size by 20% (Think that was Athol's tip with the zig zag post?) or even more like Hannie suggested and then running the FFT? The background looks good. Your poor eye balls. As for the dress ... I can't tell. Sorry. Good luck. We'll be watching  :cool:
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Lynnya on October 26, 2016, 01:52:15 PM
No I forgot to extend... will next time thanks.. this is my WIP so far...not sure it's better but..  :-\

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zr23d2T/0/XL/i-zr23d2T-XL.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wW2V3Qj/1/XL/i-wW2V3Qj-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Mhayes on October 26, 2016, 07:37:00 PM
Lynn, this photo is a real challenge.  :wow: I like the restore 2nd from the bottom on the 1st page and parts of what is on this one. I came up with the man's suit being more blue, but I have no problem with what you have now.  Great job on her arm and might be tempted to have the little finger pointed down. I would extend the split rail out to the other side.  How you managed to work the background without going crazy is beyond me. I think you may be right about the dress and the streaks are from the ink running.

Kudos for working this one.

Margie
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Shadow on October 26, 2016, 08:43:53 PM
Lynn, you did a great job on the skin! Margie said it ... this photo is a real challenge. Like what you did with her dress. You really did a great job with the texture as well. Your poor eyeballs!! :D  You are a brave and talented woman ... way to go.
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Lynnya on October 27, 2016, 07:30:02 AM
Hi Margie,

I'll fix the fence rail and the suit.. which parts of which photos did you like or not like and I may be able to fix it..
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Hannie on October 27, 2016, 08:05:27 AM
Wow, this restore has come a long way, great job!

FFT does not do much here, the white damage causes that I think.
I agree with Margie on the color of the suit. It almost seems like the fabric of the dress is shiny with a slight vertical pattern.

Hannie

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/ohboy.jpg) (http://s210.photobucket.com/user/marijtje2/media/OPR/ohboy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Shadow on October 27, 2016, 10:12:23 AM
Hi Lynn, I put your last wip & the original side by side to get a good look at the suit colors. If PB would behave I could show you. (By the way, can anyone recommend another site for images? PB took over an hour last night & now just won't load.) If you want the suit bluer ... added 2 color layers/layer masks. Sampled blue suit from orig, on WIP Filled Color layer with that color/masked then painted in the suit. Repeated with red tie. Maybe that helps.
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Mhayes on October 27, 2016, 12:23:00 PM
Lynn, I liked the suit color better the woman's skin color--although it would be easier to tell if not separated by pages.  I also wonder if woman's hair is a little more red or copper?

Great job and thoughts not taking away from what you have done.

Margie
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Lynnya on October 27, 2016, 12:28:56 PM
Thanks Lyn Margie and Hannie,  I'm a workin onnit  :up:
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Lynnya on October 27, 2016, 02:22:10 PM
here goes..

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zr23d2T/0/XL/i-zr23d2T-XL.jpg)   (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-VtHXxb5/3/XL/i-VtHXxb5-XL.jpg)

with a fence post.. I think there was one there...


(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-kv87tSJ/1/XL/i-kv87tSJ-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Shadow on October 27, 2016, 02:33:08 PM
 :up: 
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Mhayes on October 27, 2016, 02:47:27 PM
 :up: :up:  Bet you feel like you have ran a marathon?

Margie
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Lynnya on October 27, 2016, 03:02:54 PM
I do!!! Margie I put a post in.. is it ok?? Hope so cos I've sent it up.. I'm not real happy with it  :-\ but I think I've probably gone as far as I can go with my experience.. someone else may have taken it further.. maybe Bambi will send it back and I'll have to work on it more lol
Now I need to find and easy one :cool:
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Mhayes on October 27, 2016, 03:24:57 PM
Lynn, I agree and can't think of much else you could do and amazing what you did. Not sure what you meant about: "I put a post in . . is it OK?" Do you mean the forum?

Think I got it now after checking my gallery. You made a request for a new photo? Yes, that's fine and it's on the way to you. Thanks.

Margie
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Lynnya on October 27, 2016, 03:49:28 PM
Actually.... it was a fence post  :funny:
Title: Re: Couple at the Fence
Post by: Mhayes on October 27, 2016, 04:19:36 PM
Oh my, I missed this one by a mile!  :funny: