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Title: Another Is This OK?
Post by: PatW on September 18, 2009, 02:41:15 PM
Ok guys, am I done yet?  (oh please say yes, oh please say yes, oh please say yes.)     :D   Just joking!... honesty truly solicited... :)


(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f344/patriciados/GHF_65a_before.jpg)
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f344/patriciados/GHF-65a_after.jpg)


It's amazing how you see things when you post that you didn't notice when you were working.  I now see that disconcerting horizontal line across the boards.  Hey, wait a minute, it's in the original too.  Is it just a line of snow?  Should I do something with it?    :-\
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: Hannie on September 18, 2009, 06:58:50 PM
Hi Pat,

Who would have thought it can snow in Galveston?
I think the spots that I circled on the left side may be damage as well?

Great job you've done!

:up2:

Hannie

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/damage-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: PatW on September 18, 2009, 07:53:42 PM
Hi Hannie,

Thanks.  You know, I looked at that a long time & thought it was mostly snow.  Sigh, I should have known that would be too good to be true.   I'll go back & make it go away now... :)
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: Mhayes on September 18, 2009, 09:48:39 PM
Nice try Pat! While snow in Galveston is rare, back on Christmas eve and day in 2004, Galveston recorded 4 in of snow. But, I don't think that is the case on this one and the area Hannie circled do looks like damage. Never hurts to try.  ;)

Margie
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: PatW on September 18, 2009, 11:44:08 PM
Ahem... pulls self up to full height & assumes injured expression.... stricken actually......

It was merely a difference of opinion... No matter how weasely I may have been in the past, this time my heart was pure.... well mostly pure anyway.  I stared at that stuff for some time before I determined that  it was snow... in retrospect I see that perhaps my judgment was ever so slightly blinded by the desire that it be snow... but I was not actually trying to sell swampland.  

This of course in no way gives up my God given right to attempt to sell swampland in the future..... :funny:

I shall now, with nary a grumble, (or at least certainly not one you two can hear) proceed to make my beloved snow go away.


P.S.  The stuff on the right is definitely snow. 
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: Johnboy on September 19, 2009, 12:21:56 AM
Well Pat where is the deed to the swamp. When I first looked at it I thought of a tire track in the snow. You know, like when you drive over snow and then it melts later leaving an icy track. I also wondered where the other track may be since the snow on the right doesn't seem to show any marks. So if it were a tire track I would suspect it to be to the left. Any way how big is this swamp?  ::)

Johnboy
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: Ausimax on September 19, 2009, 11:28:10 PM


I think it would be worth checking, the white stuff does not look like damage - it could be snow or foam and in either case it could be the very reason the photo was taken.

Max
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: Hannie on September 20, 2009, 08:06:25 AM
I used the original photo and did some curves to get a better view of the spots, maybe this helps!

Hannie

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/snow-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: PatW on September 20, 2009, 01:05:28 PM
Hi Hannie,

What originally led me to believe that at least some of that stuff was snow, especially the spots at the bottom of the oval you drew, was the way the cracks between the boards still show.  A light snow often melts first at the cracks. 

Thanks Max!  Even if I misjudged which of the white stuff was snow, I also think that was probably the reason the photo was taken.

I'll resume "snow" removal this evening.  Since today is our only free day & the weather is so gorgeous, we & our little dog are off in search of adventure.   :)
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: Mhayes on September 22, 2009, 12:35:03 AM
Hi Pat,

OK, all those in favor of snow weigh in on this one and I will see if I can find out.  :cool:

Margie
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: Hannie on September 22, 2009, 05:59:12 AM
Margie, these spots are a riddle to me.  When you look at the top part of it on my image, they are stains but the bottom and middle, like Pat already mentioned, looks like snow melting at the cracks.
(somehow that sounds funny)

Hannie



Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: battleaxe on September 22, 2009, 10:24:48 AM
looks like a tire track in the snow to me...can almost see part of  the other one to the right
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: lurch on September 22, 2009, 12:41:27 PM
Were there vehicles with tires on the docks in those days? Looks like a stain to me.
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: kiska on September 22, 2009, 12:43:59 PM
In my humble opinion I think it's damage. The other snow is white. Also, if it was a tire track, the perspective would make it smaller as it got closer to the train....depth of field.
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: PatW on September 22, 2009, 12:56:14 PM
The more I look at it, the more I think it's both.  The yellowish vertical stuff is damage & the whiter horizontal stuff under that is snow.  I still think the spots at the bottom of the oval Hannie drew are snow, but my mind is starting to fuzz up.  (Poor thing isn't used to being worked this hard.  :D ) 
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: Mhayes on September 22, 2009, 01:32:45 PM
Pat, guess what? There is another possibility of what the white stuff could be--cotton! Brian Davis and Jami Durham, Galveston Historical Foundation, had two different theories.

QuoteJami: "Cotton was big business on the docks in Galveston.

QuoteBrian: "It maybe snow (or cotton) I remember several of the photos showed ice on the water, which is almost unheard of in Galveston. We did have snow in 1899, the year before the 1900 storm I believe." When asked about the tracks: "They would have had buggies out on the dock or carts, to help move the materials around."

On the left where Hannie has circled is most likely damage and Brian threw out a possibility of what might have caused it: "It almost appears in one of the photos that the stain is a ring almost like a coffee cup someones put down in the past. Just a thought."

So Pat, if your mind is starting to fuzz up, could it be from the cotton?

Margie
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: PatW on October 11, 2009, 08:52:55 PM
A little late getting back but here I am again.   (My lame-o excuse is that things got a little nuts here for awhile)   :-[

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f344/patriciados/GHF_65a_-after.jpg)

After I made my "historical snow" go away I kept finding other things in need of tweaking.  This photo has pretty much been one anguished Aaargh after another.    Sooo... can I stop whining & grumbling yet?
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: Hannie on October 12, 2009, 06:21:07 AM
Hi Pat,

I'd say send this baby home!

:up:

Hannie
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: PatW on October 12, 2009, 11:09:37 AM
Oh thank you, thank you, thank you.  :loveit:
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: PatW on October 12, 2009, 12:32:11 PM
Hannie...  Right after I uploaded this, I realized that I didn't get the IPTC info back in the photo.   Should I put it in & upload it again?

Sorry about that!
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: Hannie on October 12, 2009, 03:46:09 PM
Yes Pat, it would be a great help if you could do that!

Hannie
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: Hannie on October 13, 2009, 08:14:08 AM
Hi Pat,

I got you second upload, thanks!

Hannie
Title: Re: Another Is This OK?
Post by: PatW on October 13, 2009, 12:08:55 PM
 :)  Excellent!