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Title: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: schen on May 03, 2008, 12:51:29 PM
I promised Glenna that I would post this when I am finished.  It took me a long time partly because I had been quite busy with my day job and the only break I had, I went on the Winona copy run.  After staring at this photo for so long, I am seeing woodpecker in it.  Did I missed anything?  Any comments are appreciated.

Shujen


(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z298/schen_album/OPR048.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: Mhayes on May 03, 2008, 12:56:25 PM
Shujen,  Great job, woodpecker and all!

Margie
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: cmpentecost on May 03, 2008, 12:56:46 PM
Wow!!

Chris
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: weewood on May 03, 2008, 12:57:21 PM
Wow, You did a great job, Shujen.  :up:
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: kiska on May 03, 2008, 01:16:42 PM
Shugen, NICE "UN!
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: Hannie on May 03, 2008, 01:33:33 PM
Chen, what an incredible job you did, must have taken forever!
Can't help but wonder if the yellowish cast was water damage or already there before?

Hannie

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/chencopy.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: schen on May 03, 2008, 02:01:38 PM
Thanks for good words.  Hannie, I appreciate you going through the trouble to remove the color cast.  I think most likely the yellow cast was aging.  I do have the personal preference of warmer colors and often left some yellow cast in the finished photos.  I did remove 30% of yellow from the original on this one.  I will try to do more.
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: Hannie on May 03, 2008, 02:28:42 PM
Chen, I find your view on the color of this photo very interesting.  It made me stop and think a lot more about color correction in general.  Now when I look at my version of your restore, although it looks "clean", it also looks a little cold.  In hindsight I think I now prefer your yellow" version better.

I love this forum, always something new to learn!

:loveit:

Hannie
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: glennab on May 03, 2008, 03:53:08 PM
Shujen, you did a wonderful job on your "scratch monster."  I found that the ones I did all had a yellow cast as well, but intermittent, not uniform.  I'm guessing a lot of it was damage as opposed to an overall aging process.  The only thing I see that you might want to address is the yellow at the very bottom center of the carpet and the fading at the outer edges. My impression is that the background of the carpet is very dark, if not black. Minor picks, when you did such an awesome job.

I think the last Before & After that I posted and this one were the end of the images with yellow scratches.  We can hope!

I'm finding the discussion on warm vs. cool colors quite enlightening.  Some of the colors that have been described as too cool or warm, seem to be the opposite to me.  Do you think there's that much disparity in the colors we're seeing on our monitors?  Do we all need to get Hueys?

Cheers

Glenna

Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: schen on May 03, 2008, 04:09:19 PM
The yellow blotches at the bottom of the carpet some how got in there when I cloned them.  While I was looking through the channels in response to Hannie's comment, I found two big areas without blue at all.  I don't know how they happened, but I had them re-cloned.  Thanks for the keen eyes.

There are two opposite ways of describing the warm and cool of the color.  Maybe they are the root of confusions.  When the picture has an orange/yellow cast, it reminds us of the amber glow and evokes a warm feeling.  When it has a blue cast, it resembles the bluish glacial and hence the cold feeling.

Technically, the color hues are defined by the temperature of an incandescent light source.  The cooler the light source, the more yellow orange the photo looks.
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: cmpentecost on May 03, 2008, 04:15:01 PM
Shujen, is that relatively speaking?!!

Chris
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: schen on May 03, 2008, 04:16:22 PM
Help Tom!  We need a new word of the day.   :funny:
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: klassylady25 on May 03, 2008, 05:19:53 PM
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!  That's a word.
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: mschonher on May 03, 2008, 05:26:59 PM
Hi Schen,

Another beautiful restoration! I can just picture you working for days and days on all the details.  Your perfectionism is showing!  I'm wondering if some purple in the same value as the yellow would neutralize those 2 spots at the bottom.  Just a thought Schen.  If this was my photo I wouldn't mind the spots at all, I'd be thrilled to see those scratches gone.

Mary
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: Ratz on May 03, 2008, 05:29:39 PM
Shujen, what a beautiful job you've done :up:
I personally like your colour version,it looks a lot like the snapshots I took of my kids when they were young.
I think that the yellowing is just the age of the photo and was probably there before the damage.
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: mschonher on May 03, 2008, 05:54:23 PM
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k88/mschonher/OPR048.jpg)


Schen, I hope you don't mind but I had nothing to do today (don't tell Chris) so I played with your lovely photo.  I just made a selection from the good rug area and moved it over. I also did a levels adjustment.  None of it was necessary but it gave me something to do for a few minutes.

Mary

PS:  Either you or Glenna will have to make a tut on how you remove those yellow scratches.
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: Tess (Tassie D) on May 03, 2008, 08:33:36 PM
A beautiful job Shujen. :up:
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: mschonher on May 03, 2008, 08:45:13 PM
sorry about that photobucket thing, but Schen, you don't need my help anyway.  You're work is beautiful.
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: schen on May 04, 2008, 07:39:17 AM
I took the afternoon and evening off and went to have a nice dinner at the restaurant of Rick Bayless (host of Mexico - one plate at a time) in Chicago.  I had a good night sleep and today woke up with a pair of fresh eyes.  Hope I did not go overboard removing yellow cast this time.

You are great.  Love your suggestions.

(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z298/schen_album/OPR048B.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: glennab on May 04, 2008, 11:38:18 AM
Shujen, mighty fine!  No picks.  I think the color is perfect (at least on my monitor!). It looks great.  Glenna
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: Hannie on May 04, 2008, 12:06:42 PM
Chen, that looks great, nice color!  :up2:

I am so jealous of you, dinner at Rick Bayless' restaurant!  That must have been so good.  We own a copy of one of his cook books.  Our favorite recipe is "Cowboy Beans", yum yum!

Hannie
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: mschonher on May 04, 2008, 02:51:28 PM
Schen it looks perfect now   :up:

Mary
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: Ratz on May 04, 2008, 06:59:39 PM
Beautiful job Shujen :up:
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: jneil2 on May 05, 2008, 11:47:15 AM
Thanks again, Shujen.  You really did a nice job,

Jan
Title: Re: Finally, the gold scratches are gone
Post by: zinger on May 05, 2008, 03:46:07 PM
Shujen,

This is now the "gold standard". :up: Nice work.