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Title: Using the Patch tool on a separate layer??
Post by: Atlantis on January 28, 2008, 11:41:48 AM
When working with the (spot)healing tools I can use them on a separate layer so I can do and undo as much as I like. It's a non-destructive method and I use it a lot.
But I cannot do the same when I want to try the patch tool. Why? I use PS CS2.
The patch tool is supposed to work miracles but I have not found the magic word yet  :-[ .
Title: Re: Using the Patch tool on a separate layer??
Post by: mschonher on January 28, 2008, 02:38:24 PM
Hi Atlantis,

I use CS and have had the same experience as you. What I do is just duplicate the layer and then the patch tool will work just fine. Good luck with your restoration.........

Mary
Title: Re: Using the Patch tool on a separate layer??
Post by: cmpentecost on January 28, 2008, 03:08:41 PM
What I've done in Windows is Control>Alt>Shift>E to merge all of the layers UP, so that I can use the patch tool.  I try and use the patch tool early in the restoration after making a copy of the background layer, but there are times I still will have to merge my layers up. 

Chris
Title: Re: Using the Patch tool on a separate layer??
Post by: glennab on January 28, 2008, 03:15:43 PM
Chris, I use your technique which usually works quite well.  By the time I'm ready for the patch tool, I'm also ready to merge layers.  I don't understand why such a powerful program that allows sampling all layers on nearly every other tool doesn't allow it with patch.  Strange...

Glenna
Title: Re: Using the Patch tool on a separate layer??
Post by: Ausimax on January 28, 2008, 08:36:05 PM
Unfortunately its limitation of working only on the primary layer make it the least useful tool in my opinion, most cases where I would use the patch tool I copy and paste and blend in with levels/curves, and you don't suffer the colour bleed in from adjoining damaged areas.

Its good on small patches where you can cover the damage in one pass but other than that I don't use it much.

Max
Title: Re: Using the Patch tool on a separate layer??
Post by: Hannie on January 29, 2008, 05:18:46 AM
I feel the same about the patch tool as Max.  I do not have great results using the tool.  Then again, in my case, it may be lack of PS knowledge or wrong use of the tool?

Hannie
Title: Re: Using the Patch tool on a separate layer??
Post by: Atlantis on January 29, 2008, 08:17:00 AM
So I'm not the only one frustrated by a tool that has potentional great value in restoring textures ...
Maybe something changed for the better in CS3? Any CS3 users around here?
Title: Re: Using the Patch tool on a separate layer??
Post by: cmpentecost on January 29, 2008, 10:40:44 AM
I've got CS3, and there are no changes to the patch tool.  Maybe by the time CS4 rolls around, we'll see a change!

Chris