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Blue channel found most of the facial features, but as you can see there will be a great deal of work on this one.
Anchors Away!!
Sheesh Bets - what HAVE you gotten yourself into? There's hardly even any clean uniform you can steal pieces of!
What you might try doing with this one is make a luminosity layer out of the blue channel. It'll be too dark and you'll have to fiddle with brightness and contrast, but it will virtually obliterate all that bled-through writing. Then you do the cleanup (cloning, patching, etc.) on the gray-scale luminosity layer. Just as much cleanup, but the odd colors are out of the equation. When you have the cleanup done all those color stains are the same luminosity as the good stuff around them and you can just paint them out in color mode on a blank color layer, sampling from nearby good spots. Might have to do a final color adjustment on the end result.
Good luck on this one, and when Margie says Navy, run . . .
I'm on the blue but not yet in the pink... and the rest of it = I really appreciate your thoughts!! Have copied the suggestions and will use them as a guide.
Thank you Lurch!
Bets
Wow.....what a photo! I have a few extra ounces of patience lying around here, and I'll be happy to share them with you. I think you'll need it! I can't wait to see the work in progress and final photo.
Some day, I hope people will learn not to write on the back of their photos with ink pens!
Good lucks Bets. I'm sure you'll do great!
Christine
OH, you don't know how many times I've held my hand mirror up to read the writing! lol But it does make it a bit of a challenge getting around the men.
After I'm back from the day at the hospital, I work on this to help ease the mind from the days happening. My friend is in a room now, but the journey has only begun for he and his wife. After 66 years you're kind of use to having a leg to stand on.... Hedy is still working so I go up and visit a while, come back and check on their dogs, and come home.
Navy is my resting place.
And the powers that be, heaped enough gunk on this one to make it a real winner!! :D :loveit:
Thanks for the encouragement Christine!! :hug:
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Sewing on the uniforms takes time! :D Whew!!
It's really looking good, Bets :up: Your seamstress work is great. And if you're like me you'll think very hard before taking on another group photo.
Bet, your seamstress work is coming along very6 nicely. Don't let Lurch steer you away from group shots--the more the merrier! The five I have in holding will only have 2-4 people in the photos. Since you two are having so much fun, I intend to give a preview of these added military photos. If anyone is familiar with submarines, let me know.
Margie
Bets, that is starting to look really beautiful, great job!
:up2:
Hannie
Shouldn't admit this, but I toured a sub once. Does that give me expertise? Neu! ::)
So did I. Down in Mobile, Alabama. There was a sub and a battleship.
http://www.ussalabama.com/ (http://www.ussalabama.com/)
Have a look see. :)
I think lagirl and I are doomed!
:wnw: You could be right!
I once restored a sub picture and looked at some others for reference but Margie doesn't know that and I'm currently hiding from her ;)
MJ
I like your means of hiding!! Very well done!! :up:
Have either of you heard of spyware? There is no hiding around here! :funny:
Margie
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It's coming along............
The faces are near to impossible to do.
Hi Bet,
I think you are fine with the faces, because they are at a distance so you get the general feel for them. I really like the overall look of the photo posted before this better. If you look at it you will see the difference in the lighting. To me it looks like 3/4 of the men will be in the shadows under the tree, while those on the very end will have more sunlight on them. What you have now looks too bright. You can vary the lightness of your men by doing a new layer and putting the mode at either overlay or softlight and checking the box for 50% gray. From there with a soft brush starting at first with a low opacity brush to either darken (black) or lighten (white) the sailors uniforms. Or your could experiment with different layers and modes and mask to get the uniforms shaded right.
I think your other post will give you a better idea of how the light is falling on the sailors and also the shadows. You will still have to repair the ink spots, but your photo will look more natural. Great job!
Margie
Thanks Margie. I saw the difference to and posted to ask the question about the faces, so I let the other alone for the time being. I have been going back and forth between the original and this one. I'll work on it some more tonight.
Thanks for the suggestions. I have to go back to the VA this morning. Update on friend - 3 surgeries later, and one leg gone, the doctors finally finalized the end. His loss ended 3-4 inches above the knee. Now, he has new things to learn.
Betty :)
Give OPR's best to your friend Betty.
Dave
Betty, I'm sorry to hear about your firends medical problems. I hope he'll will recover well and soon!
Best wishes,
Hannie
Bet, so sorry to see how this has turned out with your friend. Hope his recovery will go smooth and our thoughts are with you.
Margie
Hi Bets
Hugs and best wishes to you for being such a wonderful friend, and the same for your brave pal who's having to endure so much. We shall send out the guardian angels. (I think they've returned from their Caribbean holiday!)
Bless,
GK
Thank you all so much for the well wishes. He's been moved to 2nd floor and now the next hard step of rehab and new lifestyle begins. He sounded whipped this morning, however if he wants to get home, he knows it's got to be. :hug:
On another note. I received this about the photo I'm working on this morning. Oft times, for a military picture, there is an avenue for replacement. That is not the case for this one, but I did find one with the same background. That was exciting: see class 86420
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Dear Mrs. Orr
Thank you for your interest in the archival records of the Naval
Submarine School housed here at the Submarine Force Museum Archives.
The Archives is fortunate to have a sizable collection of Sub School
records, class rosters and photographs. Regrettably, however, the
collection is incomplete, and there are numerous gaps in the collection
of class rosters and photographs.
I am sorry to report that none of the student personnel records
from the 1980s were preserved by Sub School, or were ever transferred to
the Submarine Force Archives.
One additional, non-Navy, source you may wish to check out is a
web site established by a former submariner for the purpose of
collecting and displaying Submarine School class photos and rosters
preserved and donated by former BESS students. With any luck you may
find your client's class photo on that site. If you do not find
anything on your first visit, please keep checking because new items are
constantly being added. http://www.bessphotos.com/
With respect,
Wendy
Wendy S. Gulley, Archivist
Submarine Force Museum (Archives)
Naval Submarine Base NLON
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Let's see what you guys think now.
Betty. you have come such a long way with your restore, the changes you made are a real improvement!
At this point I find it sometimes helps to go right back to the original and place them side by side and decide where I may need to add shading or not and any other things I may have overlooked.
Great job on a really difficult restore,
Hannie
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That was the next step. Thanks Hannie. :)
Bets: one word – AWESOME!
GK
Thank you Miss Glenna! :-*
Bet, this is really coming together great! I would go back and darken the leaves of the tree to give more contrast to the picture.
Margie
Great job Bets! You did an amazing job on this photo. I agree with Margie in the trees, of making them a bit darker.
Christine
Agreed and thanks for the extra eyes ya'll. ;)
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Closer?
Bet, this is really starting to look great! The only thing that catches my eye is the two sailors and part of the next with a brighter section of their lower pant legs.
Margie
Wow Betty, that looks great!
I agree with Margie on the brighter section.
One other thing I was wondering if the sky was a more blueish color?
Hannie
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Clouds tetched.... and if I go much further on this one I'll be the one who is tetched!! :D :funny:
Going once
Going twice....
Hi Bet,
I think it is looking pretty good and I hate to mention a few things for fear you will jump. You still have one sailor and part of the next with a very bright white pant leg at the bottom. The other thing that I didn't notice until I click on for a larger view is the eyes of the black sailor. I would let the face remain in the shadows as the original, because the way you have the white circles makes him look like he has stage make up on. The next guy to your right would also has his face more shaded, but I can live with it as you have it. I know this is getting frustrating for you, but you are getting close to the finish line. Of course we will keep moving it each time! ;D
Margie
Good eyes.
Got the pants done.
The cheeks aren't pink.
And more shading added.
:knuppel: I'm not frustrated at all!! LOL
Actually, thanks. I didn't see those until you pointed them out. Any Better?
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Bet, this is much better!! Great job and I think it's ready to go home, unless someone spots something else. Now take a deserved break! :up:
Margie
Aw, c'mon, you're just saying that! :funny:
Did a few more adjustments and now I do think it's ready to go unless someone else sees something. Awaiting your answers.
Betty
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Bet. I think the sky looks much better now! Great job!
Hannie
:up: :up:
Margie
I've sent them home to you. Oft times frustrating but really helped through all the things going on with my friend. Update: has been moved to the 2nd floor which is the rehab unit. If he works very hard he may be home in 3 more weeks. Thank you all for your thoughts on the matter. Makes me thankful for my health, even with the little aches, it could be so much worse.
Hugs to all,
Betty
Betty, so good to hear your friend is making progress so fast! It'll still be a long road but at least he is on his way to recovery.
Best wishes,
Hannie