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Title: Black and White #2
Post by: Oldfaded on June 23, 2011, 12:38:21 PM
Gradient? or Clouds?...  :loveit:
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ORIGINAL
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(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/learninlady/SimpsonJ20_8_4X5_original.jpg)
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RESTORED
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(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/learninlady/SimpsonJ20_8_4X5_LL.jpg)

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Title: Re: Black and White #2
Post by: Tori803 on June 23, 2011, 01:42:54 PM
Well, in this one, you do have original clouds, so I would try to save them :)

Tori
Title: Re: Black and White #2
Post by: Oldfaded on June 23, 2011, 03:37:11 PM
File #1
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(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/learninlady/1-2.jpg)
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OR
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File #2
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(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/learninlady/2-1.jpg)

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Title: Re: Black and White #2
Post by: lurch on June 23, 2011, 04:32:26 PM
Kate, I'd interpret the sky as mostly clear (clue - the sharp shadows in main image). Both of your files suggest a storm brewing, especially #1.
Title: Re: Black and White #2
Post by: Oldfaded on June 23, 2011, 04:53:08 PM
yes I saw those shadow clues. :)
and its not unlikely that the sun can be shining and a storm brewing, this is Vietnam and that is the type weather there.
Here is a copy off the original to show that there are clouds in this photo.
the only thing I have done to this from its original form is to change to BNW and adjust the highlights and contrast so you can see the clouds better
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(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/learninlady/clouds.jpg)

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Title: Re: Black and White #2
Post by: Mhayes on June 23, 2011, 04:57:24 PM
#1 because it is the closes to the original. I would be cautious about using gradients too much as they often don't print as well.

Margie
Title: Re: Black and White #2
Post by: Oldfaded on June 23, 2011, 05:00:44 PM
neither file #1 or #2 have a gradient.
In the original photograph there are clouds in the background, so I used clouds instead of the gradient above.
Title: Re: Black and White #2
Post by: Mhayes on June 23, 2011, 06:20:46 PM
Oldfaded, I know that, but I was making reference to the last photo you uploaded and the photo that you showed on this post under the original. I was merely cautioning you about gradients. There have been other articles on the forum about separation--banding showing-- when printing and how 16 bit doesn't do that--- on a different subject entirely.

Margie
Title: Re: Black and White #2
Post by: Judy on June 23, 2011, 06:38:33 PM
I like number 1 the best, and far prefer it to any no cloud solution.  I agree that the storm brewing doesn't preclude sunshine and although I would not have noticed it, there are clouds in the original.  Thankfully, as the stormy sky looks neat!

I might lighten the guy's face a tad and see whether it is more visible.

Judy
Title: Re: Black and White #2
Post by: Oldfaded on June 23, 2011, 07:17:15 PM
I don't use the gradient tool myself.
I have printed photographs after using that tool and I agree, and have found the same thing, the don't print well.
I have other methods that will stand up to printing.

and as for the clouds, I cant help what the photograph shows. :(