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Title: For further review
Post by: smceachron on August 30, 2011, 11:08:49 PM
I don't know why this didn't work before.  Thank you so much for your patience.

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/OnealC12_8_8x10green.jpg)

Fixed it for you Sandi.
Tess
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: Mhayes on August 30, 2011, 11:41:19 PM
Sandi, I think you have copied the wrong link. You want the last one under your photo that starts with (IMG Code), don't choose the direct link one. Also, it looks like you are posting your photo as a Gif? It would be better to be a jpg at 72 dpi. Here is a link on the forum to some screen prints that Tess has that will show you what to do:
http://www.operationphotorescue.org/forum/index.php/topic,2002.0.html (http://www.operationphotorescue.org/forum/index.php/topic,2002.0.html)

With PhotoBucket, when you post in in your reply and save, the photo will show up and not the link. Hope that helps.

Margie
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: lurch on August 31, 2011, 04:20:17 PM
Margie, virtually no one has a monitor that's 72 dpi any more. Much better to save jpegs for the forum at, like, 90 dpi.
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: Mhayes on August 31, 2011, 04:54:04 PM
Lurch, that is just a standard size that has been used. She could use use 96, 120, whatever. Unless the photo is tiny, it pays to reduce the size of 300 dpi for easier loading and viewing. The monitor wasn't even a factor. Plus, I couldn't figure out on her link why it was a Gif. Now I I see that if you use the pull down in PS for Save for the Web, the first choice is a gif. If would still be better as a jpg. I don't save that way, might be better, but I just change the dpi for easier loading and 72 dpi is what I use.

Margie
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: smceachron on September 03, 2011, 05:46:09 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: smceachron on September 03, 2011, 05:57:35 PM
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/OnealC12_8_8x10green.jpg)Sorry, I can't get the photo to paste.  I modified the thread.
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: Tess (Tassie D) on September 03, 2011, 08:21:33 PM
Were these the ones you wanted pasted Sandi?

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/OnealC12_8_8x10green.jpg)

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/OnealC12_8_8x10RT.jpg)
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: smceachron on September 03, 2011, 08:38:25 PM
The green tint I don't really like, but the other one is done.  I found out we were experiencing problems with our ISP which was down.  Np wonder we couldn't send anything out.  Thanks, Sandi
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: Mhayes on September 04, 2011, 02:09:47 AM
Sandi, nice cleanup on the damage. It would help if you would include the original along with your WIP. I think your version is redder than the original and yes, it looks better than the green tint. You want to color correct to the original which looked like sepia with some hand painting on the lips and cheeks. The collar is the original has more detail than yours and I would bring that back. Thanks for keeping the background like the original. I have included the original as is and it will look redder than it does on the computer. A color correction will also lighten up the photo.

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z10/hayesbucket/Oneal_origjpg.jpg)

Hope your problems with your ISP are over.

Margie
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: Hannie on September 04, 2011, 06:39:43 AM
Hi Sandi,

When I first looked at this restore I thought it would not be too hard to do...  was I wrong!
If you want to preserve the delicate painting, color/level/curves corrections are a nightmare.
On top of that the photo has really dark spots (damage) and lots of yellow/cyan blotches + the photo is very contrasty.

Perhaps an idea would to start this photo with a Channel Mixer adjustment layer and check the Monochrome box.
Now you don't need to worry about colors and can add them later.  I'd take a sample of the original sepia color for later, same can be done with red for the lips and cheeks.

This photo needs an extra levels correction on the (our) right side.  Gamma (middle) slider to the left (+/- 1,35) and then on the layer mask add a gradient mask going from right edge to (about 1/3 of the width of photo) to left.  This will get rid of some of the darkness on that side.

If you need help with any of this I will gladly explain it better!   :)

Hannie
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: smceachron on September 05, 2011, 04:43:02 PM
Wow, I had no idea this photo would be so difficult, but challenges never stopped me before.  Thank you for the suggestions on correcting and the new web address. I'll check it again when I send it back as for web and use jpg.  Thank you so much, I feel like a beginner.  ~ Sandi :)
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: smceachron on September 06, 2011, 07:48:45 PM
Hannie, I'm having difficulty correcting just the right side and the gradient mask.  Would you help me understand this better? Thank you so much  Sandi :loveit:

ps I changed the web save from gif to jpg and I will save the photos as 72dpi. 
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: Hannie on September 07, 2011, 09:57:35 AM
Sandi, experiment with the gray middle (gamma) slider on your Levels adjustment layer for best results.
Also experiment with the distance of the gradien tool (from left to right).

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/grad1.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/grad2.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/grad3.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/grad3b.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/grad4.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/grad5.jpg)
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: smceachron on September 07, 2011, 09:26:29 PM
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/Oneal-b4-and-after.jpg)

Tess, This looks a lot better.  Thanks for your pair of eyes on the shirt collar. Thanks for all your help.  I was spot on until the gradient.  Hugs, Sandi :hug:
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: Hannie on September 08, 2011, 10:12:25 AM
Sandi, I noticed that you deleted/moved a photo from Photobucket.  Can you fix that please?

Thanks so much!

Hannie
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: smceachron on September 08, 2011, 03:59:25 PM
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/OnealC12_8_8x10workinggreen.jpg) The green one is gone and this is as close as I can  get. I'm so sorry. :-[
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: lurch on September 09, 2011, 12:17:29 AM
This one has bad silvering, but that's a product of age, not damage.
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: schen on September 09, 2011, 08:14:43 AM
This discoloring may be from aging but I think removing partially will look better.  I would add a Hue/Saturation layer and decrease saturation by about -50.
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: smceachron on September 09, 2011, 10:08:46 PM
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/OnealC12_8_8x10workinggreen.jpg)
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: Mhayes on September 09, 2011, 10:56:50 PM
Sandi, I think what would help would be for you to post with your original post (or the 2nd one) so that we can see the comparison. Each time you post to a different post for the same photo it gets really confusing. You started With Young Man from my Photobucket and then it went to For Further Review and Now I hope this helps.  Are you having problems posting to an existing post? Not trying to be overly critical, but make it easier for us to follow your progress.  :)

Thanks,

Margie
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: smceachron on September 11, 2011, 04:48:31 PM
I tried to upload the photo and couldn't find a way to put it back into the link on the thread.  I've never had to do this before since I've never deleted a photo.  I am so sorry to be such a pain in the tush.  Thank you for not being so critical. Yes, I need help to put a replacement photo back in the thread in the same spot the old one was it.  :(
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: Pat on September 11, 2011, 05:04:59 PM
Sandi you just need to upload the deleted photo back to Photobucket.  Go to your forum post that the photo has been deleted from and click on modify, delete the image link that no longer works and paste in the correct link for the photo.

It does seem complicated the first time you try it but don't worry you'll feel like an old pro before you know it.
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: Mhayes on September 11, 2011, 07:11:53 PM
Sandi, not only can you modify a post like Pat said, but you can also click on reply when you want to continue on the same thread. Let us know if you need help.

Margie
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: smceachron on September 12, 2011, 12:26:14 AM
I've added the green photo back to the photobucket.  I don't think I can add it back to the thread from your email.
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: lurch on September 12, 2011, 01:31:19 AM
Sandi, the silvering is still as bad as it was. If you want to get rid of it, an effective procedure is in http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/photo-restoration/23911-restoring-copy-photo-silvering.html, post #2.
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: Hannie on September 12, 2011, 06:15:00 AM
Sandi, if can you post your Photobucket link here, I will fix it for you.

Hannie
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: Pat on September 12, 2011, 08:24:16 AM
A great tip Lurch.  Thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: Mike S. on September 12, 2011, 08:35:55 AM
Thanks for the tip Lurch,

I am saving it for the next one I run into.
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: Mhayes on September 12, 2011, 01:50:23 PM
Lurch, thanks for a great tip! When we go to Joplin I'm hoping that we can try out a polarized filter on our lights and also one on the camera lens as that is suppose to help with photos that have silvering.

Margie
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: PatW on September 12, 2011, 11:09:08 PM
Lurch, that's Boffo!  Thank you.   
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: Tori803 on September 13, 2011, 11:15:01 AM
Thanks for the tip, Lurch!

Tori
Title: Re: For further review
Post by: smceachron on September 13, 2011, 10:24:59 PM
Lurch,  Thank you for the instructions, but I'm only a newbie and inverting is way over my head.  I have no idea how to go about this.  My getting this photo was by accident abd no one knew it was this bad, but I'm willing to go ahead and do it.  Thank you Sandi