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Title: sweet baby girl
Post by: Oldfaded on June 27, 2011, 12:04:29 PM
ORIGINAL
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(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/learninlady/Original-2.jpg)

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RESTORED
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(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/learninlady/restored-1.jpg)

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Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Mhayes on June 27, 2011, 02:54:14 PM
Kate,

Baby looks great, but if you bring your magnification up to 200-300% you will still see mold spots on her dress and the yellow discoloration by baby's left hand. The dress on your left towards the bottom is a little blown out, but not enough to squawk. I think you have cutout baby and put her on a new background?

Margie
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Hannie on June 27, 2011, 03:36:04 PM
Kate, I see you have CS5.  There is this great tool, Spot Healing brush with Content Aware mode (default).  You can use it on the right side of the photo to repair some of the background, around the edges. 

Now you have a large area to clone/patch from to the other side. 
It is a lot of work but it will take care of the "cut out" look that is on baby's right (our left) hand and around her hair.

Hannie
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Oldfaded on June 27, 2011, 04:01:30 PM
Am I getting there? I think I shall take a break for a while and check back pink and white look the same...lol
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(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/learninlady/restored2.jpg)

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Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Mhayes on June 27, 2011, 06:50:14 PM
Kate, your first version was better. This one the colors look too saturated.

Margie
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Hannie on June 27, 2011, 06:54:25 PM
Kate, what I meant in my earlier post was to repair the original background and not select the baby and paste to a new background?

Hannie
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Oldfaded on June 27, 2011, 07:29:50 PM
OMGosh Hannie. Erm, ok, I shall try, do you really think there is enough background to reuse through out the entire background?
I have always used the background eraser and replaced the background in any photo that had that much damage, but just for you I shall give it a try. :))
but for now to critique while I play with content aware, you can gaze upon the new background here:
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(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/learninlady/restoredLL.jpg)

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Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Oldfaded on June 27, 2011, 09:18:10 PM
Ugh, doan know. Ive never done a photograph like that before.
As I had said the tutorial I followed had me taking out the background
and replacing it with a new one. but I did try.
If you want to take it back to the gallery to have someone else to it, thats fine by me, as this is the best you are going to get from lil ole me. :))
So you will have to take your pick and let me know ok hun?
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(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/learninlady/restoredLL3.jpg)
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Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Tess (Tassie D) on June 28, 2011, 02:21:16 AM
Such a sweet photo. The background thats there Kate is quite workable. I just did a rough clone into the damaged areas then selected all the background and applied a gaussian blur to make it blend in where I had cloned the area. Others would have different methods on how they do the background.
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5/tassie_devil/OPR/BG.jpg)
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Pat on June 28, 2011, 08:36:16 AM

Gorgeous background fix Tess!
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Hannie on June 28, 2011, 08:39:45 AM
This little girl surely is a darling, isn't she!

If possible at all we try to keep the original background, especially around the outlines of the subject.
I know, it is a lot to remember, perhaps this link to the Do's and Don'ts will guide you to see what we are looking for in a restore.
http://www.operationphotorescue.org/forum/index.php/topic,1772.0.html (http://www.operationphotorescue.org/forum/index.php/topic,1772.0.html)

The detail image below has from left to right,  your restore, Tess's and the original.
Can you see the difference in the outline of the little girl's head and ear?  It would be great for the owner of this photo if we could send back a print with the same detail.

I can re list the photo if you want or you could give it another try?  Remember, Rome wasn't built in one day either.  ;)

Thanks,

Hannie

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/bgcompare.jpg)


Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Oldfaded on June 28, 2011, 09:54:15 AM
Ah yes yes, Im a visual learner. Let me try another slap at Rome here, then we can see if I should just give it up. :)
love that term 'sweet potato'....lol
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Oldfaded on June 28, 2011, 01:29:40 PM
So heres my version of Rome building  :cool:
rectanguler marquee tool
select a space
right click
fill
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(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/learninlady/Rome.jpg)
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Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Oldfaded on June 29, 2011, 08:23:59 AM
Here is another try.
Please let me know if Im just not 'getting it' and  I should just give it back for someone else to try. I'd rather have it done properly and go on.
thank you
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(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/learninlady/Rome2.jpg)

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Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Hannie on June 29, 2011, 10:01:53 AM
Kate, your latest version looks really good!
You toned down the saturation a little and that looks much better.  I wonder if the dark coloring on the right side (also in original is damage or shading?

I tried to lighten it some to match the other side a little more.  (my version my be a little washed out)

Hannie

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/Rome.jpg)
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Oldfaded on June 29, 2011, 10:18:11 AM
I think its a case of taste, I like the background darker to contrast the light baby. just my taste is all.
So do you want me to lighten it ? I think your version will work just fine and we can put this one to rest, what do you think?
Im happy cause I learned a different way to do a background. :)
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Oldfaded on June 29, 2011, 10:44:23 AM
I just got out of the shower, and have java at hand. I had an idea to try. Let me see what I can do and then we can figure to send it back or not.
Im a realist, and if I cant do it then someone else can, and I feel they should get done and done WELL as fast as possible. I know ID want to see them again.
so give me one more shot, and if its not what your looking for we shall call it a day ok?  :up2:
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Hannie on June 29, 2011, 10:50:42 AM
Kate, have as many shots as you like!  :)

It is not a matter of taste, what I tried to do had nothing to with adjusting the background to my liking but rather to look as close to the original as possible.  Hence my question about the dark area, is it damage or shadow?

Hannie

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/compare-2.jpg)

Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Oldfaded on June 29, 2011, 10:59:05 AM
I dont know darlin'.
To me when I looks like a dark background and the left was damaged and washed out.
Thats why I figure its a preference of weather you want to see light or dark. I have no clue or info on what the original was so I can only guess. and from what Im seeing my guesses are different....hahahaha. used to that...lol
I know that those type photos I have myself from Sears back in the eighties, or it would seem to me. and I do remember seeing a background like yours, that is why I figure to just call it a day and use your fix cause it does look very good! :)
again hun, let me giver her the old try again and we will see what to do, as I said I really dont want to hold up production here. :)))
later gater!!
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Mhayes on June 29, 2011, 11:18:04 AM
Hannie, I think yours comes closer to looking like the original. I like the baby's color of skin better now that would go with her fair complexion. I do think her her hair is more of a reddish than brown and on her shoe closes to the edge, perhaps more of a cream.

Margie
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Oldfaded on June 29, 2011, 11:19:19 AM
Yay!! Margie saves the day!!!! ME TOO!! I totally agree!
I cant make it work here, not getting the results I am seeing in my minds eye. :)
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Mhayes on June 29, 2011, 12:16:24 PM
Here is the tutorial I was looking for done by Mary Schonher in 2008. The photos have been pulled so the link is not helpful, but her instructions are.

QuoteI want to share with you a technique that I use to restore the background. Looking at your photo, yes, it's a messy background, but one that can and should be saved. Look at the good areas between the damage. Working in full screen mode at 200 to 300% and using the healing brush set to "replace" with a hardness at 57% and spacing at 40%. I use an appropriate size brush for the area I'm working on and I pan out often to watch my progress and to make sure I'm getting the dark, medium and light areas if at all possible. This might sound weird but here's what I do. I put my cursor in a good area and begin making small, tight, circular motions, much like a scribble. I continue in this manner not worrying about any hard edges just concentrating on some color variation. This goes quite fast after you do it a couple of times, I don't think I spent more than 6 minutes on the sample I sent you. OK, after you have an area large enough to work with, change the healing brush to the "normal" setting. Using the same circular motion, place your cursor in a darker area to choose that color but then work it into your lighter areas, then do the opposite, placing the picker into the light area then blend into the dark area. Back and forth and before you know it you have a restored background. Watch around the main subject at this point, the healing brush hates too much contrast. If you restore the background your picture will have a more natural and softer look. Please let me know if you have questions, I'm not that good at explanations............ This technique also works for blending areas of the face and just about anywhere....I know it sounds strange but just try it.....Mary

Margie
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Oldfaded on June 29, 2011, 12:35:15 PM
 :loveit: Thank you very much! I will give it a try :)
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Oldfaded on June 29, 2011, 01:34:57 PM
nope. Im only getting the same I have been all along. tried a few different ways and still am winding up with the dark.
Im not coming even close the background that Hannie did. Not a clue of why. I can do it by replacing it. but thats not what your looking for.
so I am so sorry but I give. :)
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Hannie on June 30, 2011, 03:08:59 PM
Got your upload Kate and it looks great!

I layered my version over yours to get a more even background but retain the more vibrant colors of your restore.  What do you think?

Hannie

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/redone-1.jpg)
Title: Re: sweet baby girl
Post by: Oldfaded on June 30, 2011, 03:10:25 PM
NICE!!! We do good work... haha   :loveit: