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Title: My first photo
Post by: macieklew on March 05, 2007, 07:49:05 AM
Original:

(http://www.digitaluploader.com/1/7418BrownsbergerJ_29_15_4x4_copy.jpg)

And what I've done so far:

(http://www.digitaluploader.com/1/9787BrownsbergerJ_29_15_4x4_work%20copy.jpg)


Please, tell me what do you think. Is it good direction? Do I need to do something else?
Thank you,
Maciek
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: kiska on March 05, 2007, 07:59:51 AM
Looks good, so far! I think it would help if you did some "spotting". Get all the white/black spot out with the healing brush. There also seems to be a color shift along her right sleeve, up the curtain and the bottom fourth of the pic.
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: david_gr on March 05, 2007, 12:21:20 PM
You might want to try using levels to true up the colors.  I have had pretty good luck with that.  Just add a levels adjustment layer, and use the white and balck eyedroppers on the white and black sections of the photo.  The challenge is finding a gray area but trial and error should get you close or you don't have to use use the gray eyedropper.  Using an adjustment layer, you can delete it with no harm done if it does not work out.

I am fairly new to OPR as well.  Good luck.   :)

David Gr
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: RosyBijou on March 05, 2007, 02:40:16 PM
Those adjustment layers are such powerful and non-destructive tools... here's a "recipe" that I learned in a Photoshop course last fall:  http://picasaweb.google.com/RosyBijou/Ed2GoIntermediatePhotoshopClass/photo#5003185633310278786  (easier to just look at the screenshot than to type it out...) (do you use photoshop?)

It works great for images such as this that have some color shifting.  (The color balance is one just to play with till you settle on something that looks good--- if you're not familiar with how the sliders interact with each other--it can be a frustrating tool).  I'd do Kiska's de-spotting first then David's levels--if you think the colors could use some warming up, give the other two adjustment layers a try...  You can always delete the adjustment layers if you don't like them...

Another hint, if you press the alt key when you've got an adjustment layer menu open, the cancel button turns into a reset button--letting you start over without having to close out and restart the process...
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: macieklew on March 05, 2007, 03:12:31 PM
Thanks a lot for yuor help.
Yes - I use Photoshop - I'm going to do all you adviced me and upload result soon ...
Thank you again
Maciek
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: glennab on March 05, 2007, 03:38:00 PM
Hi SPD

It's great to see you on the forum again.  I just wanted to add that to find your neutral/mid-tone point with the eyedropper, either in levels or curves, you can click on something that should be white.  That's definitely a neutral, and I've found it works as well as finding something grey (which can be a tough determination at times).  Or - his belt looks neutral.  That might be worth a try.

I think your biggest challenge will be getting the spots out! I've found that the clone and healing tools  work best for those areas.

Good luck!

GG
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: macieklew on March 06, 2007, 05:25:18 AM
Hello,

thank you :)
and it's nice for me to see you again.
I'll give it a try with healing tools and color balance. Thanks for the tips.

SPD :)
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: macieklew on March 11, 2007, 06:19:42 PM
(http://www.digitaluploader.com/1/2364BrownsbergerJ_29_15_4x4_work%20copy.jpg)

What do you think now about levels, colors and saturation?
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: glennab on March 11, 2007, 06:58:19 PM
Hi SPD

I think your colors on the inner portion of the photo are great.  All you need to do is mask the outer area that's yellowed and get it to match the rest of the photo.  I'd use a layer mask.  Make a soft, feathered selection around the good color, mask it, adjust the yellowed part to coincide with the good areas, and then all you'll need to do is clone/heal out the dots.

I know, easy for me to say!  Good luck!

Glenna
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: macieklew on March 12, 2007, 06:31:29 PM
Hi Glenna

thanks for your advice.
Yes - easy to say :)

I'll give it a try - I'm sure I'll be able to do something ...

Thank you
SPD
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: macieklew on March 15, 2007, 08:38:10 PM
(http://www.digitaluploader.com/1/4977BrownsbergerJ_29_15_4x4_work%20copy.jpg)

What do you think now?
I know - it's still a lot of work to do, but is it ok so far or something wrong?

Thanks
PSD :)
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: glennab on March 15, 2007, 11:49:05 PM
Hi SPD

You've gotten a lot of the yellow cast out of the photo -- that's certainly an improvement!  There's still the darker area at the bottom and on the woman's left sleeve as we look at her.  And I'm not sure now whether that's shadow or more color cast. Anyone with younger, sharper eyes want to jump in at this point?

Glenna
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: klassylady25 on March 15, 2007, 11:53:28 PM
Where are the original pictures hiding?  :o)
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: macieklew on March 16, 2007, 05:21:49 PM
Hmmm ... where are they?   ???
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: klassylady25 on March 16, 2007, 05:38:01 PM
Just a thought, but did you know that if you delete the pictures to replace it with one left on the board that the link here also goes Poof!!  To avoid that problem you simply need to add new links as you go along and not delete that which you have posted.   That's one solution.
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: macieklew on March 17, 2007, 07:07:39 PM
Hmm ... I can see all the images now. Strange
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: klassylady25 on March 18, 2007, 10:18:13 AM
I can see them now.  Ok, who took my glasses again?  :o)
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: macieklew on April 18, 2007, 07:40:54 PM
(http://runepixels.com/uimages3/BrownsbergerJ_29_15_4x4_workcopy.jpg) (http://runepixels.com)

what do you think now?
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: glennab on April 18, 2007, 08:53:33 PM
Hi SP-D

Are you sure you didn't post the original photo again?  I don't see much difference between that and the current one.  I still see a lot of dust, and that can be healed out with a small brush in no time.  I don't know how to suggest you deal with the yellow cast at the bottom of the photo and the dark area on the woman's left sleeve as we look at her.  I tried several things and made them worse.  I thought dodging and burning would do it.  Maybe Max can step in with that part.  He's so good at that.  I couldn't find a way to mask off that area and use levels or curves -- even tried selective color and that didn't do much.  I need a guru, and I need one NOW!

Best wishes to you.  What's the weather like in Scotland?

Glenna
Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: Ausimax on April 18, 2007, 11:09:48 PM


Hi,


Thanks for the dob-in Glenna, I had a quick fiddle with it - for the right sleeve I selected it (I use paths for most of my selections, make sure you save your selections in case you want to use them again) and adjusted with levels.

The discoloured band across the lower skirt, I selected it again with paths making an irregular selection through the pattern, I got it as close as I could in levels adjusting the green channel, then flattened the image - I used the burn tool set to highlights at 10 % to go over the top part of the dress to reduce the blown effect, then new layer set to colour mode and I selected the background colour of the dress near the top and the on the new layer painted over the discoloured area with that colour at 100% then reduced the layer opacity till it blended well.

Just remember this photo was taken with flash, so the lighting effect will vary and the dress should get darker towards the bottom.

I hope this will help, what I have done is rough I spent no more than 5 min on this, it is just to show what may be possible.

(http://usera.imagecave.com/Ausimax/FORUM_PHOTOS/workcopy.jpg)


Max 

Title: Re: My first photo
Post by: glennab on April 18, 2007, 11:54:22 PM
Max, not being a photographer of any consequence, I hadn't thought of the flash creating the discrepancy in shading.  I knew you'd come through!  Is that yellowish-greenish cast at the bottom part of the same syndrome, or is that something that can be adjusted? I wonder if the candles are white, and the yellow is affecting them as well as the gentleman's trousers.

Glenna