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School Days - Any thoughts?
Bets,
Great job on restoring and lining up the eyes. Her hair looks beautiful and nice job of fixing the dress, although some yellow from damage remains. I like how you have hinted at the nose, since you didn't have much to go on. I would be tempted on your right hand side to bring the bottom of her nose in some to make it not so broad. Also, I would have this photo as a black and white, because the sepia tone to me is really water damage. With it being a black/white would mean no hand coloring.Down at the bottom of the photo there is still some water damage. I also noticed that you have done a filter to give the paper a textured look, that I would not do. Very nice job!
Margie
PS Don't forget to remove personal info from photo before posting to the forum. :)
I think maybe her eyes are too wide set. I made a selection of her right eye and moved it straight up. Maybe a tick to our left.
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm81/kiskaopr/Picture1-20.png)
For the eyes, I took the part that was torn off or slipped whichever the case, used a lasso, and brought it up to match where it came from, thus the spread of the eyes; a bit like putting together a puzzle. Perhaps we are doing the same thing with different references. What references did you choose?
Nose.... that I can work on.
Hand coloring... only done for here and for fun. I'm not inclinded to make it completely black and white, but more of a manilla. We're just a few years apart and I took out some of my old school pictures... scary... I thought I'd use the manilla, because I agree that the other is damage.
This little girl sat in the gallery so long, I'm just glad that I was able to bring out the picture. At first I had it looking more 'grown', at least now she is in the right age bracket.
Thank for the ideas.
Bets
(http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr322/kandykisses0054/Operation%20Photo%20Rescue/HowellP_24_2x3copy-1.jpg)
Nose more narrow.
Eyes set closer together.
Manilla coloration.
Any last thought on Lexi before I send her home?
Bets
Super job, Bets. Only two things bother me: her right eye looking bigger than her left and the pattern on her dress.
The eye disparity is there in the original, to be sure, and it's impossible to tell which one is right - er, correct. Did the definition on the left eye fade away? Or did the right eye get stretched when the emulsion slipped? Or did Lexie really have different-sized eyes? All thoughts to ponder, but probably nothing to be done about it. ??? In any case, I like the right eye best.
In the original, the dress is definitely plaid (which is a real PITA). Your extraction of the darker parts is a good workaround, but they should line up, I think.
Given the overall condition of the original these are minor, perfectionist-style picks, though.
Bets, great job! I agree with Lurch on the eyes and I know that it is a tough call when you look at the original. The only thing that catches my eye is on your right hand side of the girl's face is the light feathered coloring around her jaw line. I think it would look better if you took a soft brush or even one with 50% hardness and show more definition around the jawline. On your left, see how there is a clear line between her jawline and hair. The way it is now makes her look like she has fuzz coming off her face. This is a very minor pic on a very good restore.
Margie
(http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr322/kandykisses0054/Operation%20Photo%20Rescue/HowellP_24_2x3eyecopy-1.jpg)
Eyes and Dress... Modified
Hi Betty,
I'm amazed at what you were able to do with this one! I like the shape of her face in your first version. It is funny but the longer I look at the original the more it seems that the damaged parts that came lose did not only "float" downward but also to the right some? I could be wrong though!
Great job!
Hannie
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/wide.jpg)
I thought the first was closer also, but I definitely wanted to try the suggestions that have been made...
Going back to the first, what can be kept and what changed. Maybe a concensis can be made. I'm with grandkids tonight so no photoshop for the time being, but looking forward to your constructive words.
Bets :)
Hi Bets,
I agree with Hannie, but nothing like having you straddling the fence not knowing which way to go is there? ;D
Margie
This way and that way. That way and this way.
There is a bit of a discrepancy and as many people view it, there will be differences of thoughts
Hi lagirl,
I know I come into the discussion a little late, so feel free to just disregard my comments. I would say you did the impossible, the girl looks lovely even if it might look a little different from the original. I have a little pick regarding her left shoulder, it looks a little wide compared to her right one. That might just be the "Monk" in me..... :D
Gerlinde
Gerlinde, I thought it was an OPR requirement - channeling our inner Monk ;D
Wow.......... :-\
Bets, don't despair, you are doing a great job!
I compared my interpretation of placement of the eyes to the original and this is what it looks like:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/lex.jpg)
This is what I think the girl may look like, I think that tiny narrow strip in the middle may be the only part on the left of the photo that stayed in the right place and I just lined up the 2 "drifter" pieces to match it.
I know, I know, this really doesn't help! :D
Hannie
(http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr322/kandykisses0054/Operation%20Photo%20Rescue/Firstcopy.jpg)
Thanks Hannie. I took your photo and overlaid it on my first example, at 75% opacity. That's the way that I did it when I first posted. I'll go back to the first and come forward again.
Bets
Bets, this version looks perfect except for the blotch in the middle of her face. Just kidding! ;D
Margie
There's a blotch!? :mad:
(http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr322/kandykisses0054/Operation%20Photo%20Rescue/HowellP_24_2x3adj.jpg)
:up:
Bets, she's looking great! What a bear.
I have a couple of observations, and I've included them in the jpeg file I'm uploading to this post. I think the shape of her mouth is the most critical part. For what it's worth from a mostly absentee, but hopefully soon to return (warning! achtung!) on-and-onner.
(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n222/glennab-fla/ForBets.jpg)
Hugs
GK
I love you.
I hate pleats!
Shoulder seam... where's the seamstress?
and IF I find her mouth I may bite you!! LOL
And nose? What nose and in what channel? ???
Pooey........... back to the photoshop drawing board. :crazy:
Steb....... okay, now I've lost it!
(http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr322/kandykisses0054/Operation%20Photo%20Rescue/HowellP_24_2x3adj-1.jpg)
I'm just about ready to scrap this picture for a bit. I am not pleased with this one and believe me I've tried ALL the suggestions. Keeping them in mind I might have to stop trying so hard and go back to square one, seriously. But the picture above is the latest rendition. There are quite a few things NOT looking right to me however, I may have been looking at it for far to long.
I'll be back. :-*
Bets,
I feel your pain. We all have. There are many photos that I've returned that still haunt me.
I'm not sure who or what the QC is, but maybe we need some access in our time of need.
Keep up the good work!
Pete
Bets, don't forget that you are working on a photo that nobody else even wanted to try. For that you are a hero!
Don't be too hard on yourself, you have come a long way and from what I have seen from you so far I'm more than confident it'll all work out in the end!
Hannie
You certainly picked a hard one Bets. I had a very rough go at just the face, hate pleats and patterns. :) I ended up with her face more looking at the camera and her nose isnt right either. ??? So I suppose we would all get different results.
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5/tassie_devil/face121.jpg)
This one should have been a group project. LOL
It would be interesting to see the renditions.
:loveit:
Bets, indeed it would be interesting to see how each of us would interpret what little is in this photo. Maybe we could put all of the versions together and get something useful! I honestly don't think we should accept photos with so much information obliterated when we do copy runs. There's no way to get a true visage when you have to guess at the nose!
I've decided that in a case like this one, there's no sense checking the normal channels, so I'm now looking in the mauve, puce, butterscotch, and neon jade channels. Unfortunately they're only found in CS 2.4.6.8.1, and copies of that version are nearly impossible to obtain. Mine's a bootleg copy (heavens, don't let that get out!)
Cheers
GK
Bootlegging? Is that anything like Bootleg? Hic!!
No probably not. I agree however on the premise that pictures that have something as central as a nose (excuse the pun) really need to turned away UNLESS there is another picture that can provide that feature. It is so important to how the 'real' person looks.
I'll keep working on it until I don't!
Keep looking in those channel, maybe the missing link is still out there.
Hugs,
Bets
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Getting closer?
Bets, this is nice from an artsy point, but it is getting further from looking like the original. I realize that the original was a bear and you have done wonders with it. I like the version where you had taken your copy and overlaid Hannie's. The shoulders were a little wide on that one, but I think it was the closest of all that you have done.
Margie
I realize that there is a good way to go, but I actually found the nose!!! It's very well hidden, but their was just a small portion I could see. So what do you think?
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I've tried to incorporate all ya'lls thoughts. I've pulled the picture for now. And believe it or not Hannie's was incorporated in this one also.
:'( Honestly, I don't know which way to turn with this one now.
Bets
Hi Bets,
I have been watching with interest your travails with this photo, I know how it feels, I have had my share of those that just don't seem to work regardless of what you do.
My feeling with this one is that you are trying to do too much with it, it is only a very small photo at 2x3, and what you see is more illusion than detail, work toward making it look OK at print size rather than at 100%.
Try copying the disrupted pieced and repositioning them then blending them in, dodge and burn can be useful tools on these monochrome images, but mainly try to tidy up rather than replace.
I know its easy to know how to do somebody else's photo, but I have often been guilty of overworking images myself - trying to get that little extra detail and in the process loosing what was there.
Keep up the good work, it all good practice anyway. :funny:
Max
Quote from: Ausimax on March 22, 2009, 09:53:25 PM
Hi Bets,
I have been watching with interest your travails with this photo, I know how it feels, I have had my share of those that just don't seem to work regardless of what you do.
Max
I've tried very hard to bring everyone's elses ideas to fruition and somewhere along the way I've lost my way and perspective. :-\ I'm rather discouraged on this one at this point but I'll get better.
Thanks so much for your words of encouragement.
Bets
(http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr322/kandykisses0054/Operation%20Photo%20Rescue/HowellP_24_2x3adj-2.jpg)
Here she is however, I've gone as far as I can. Any volunteers to help send this young lady home?
:)