What to do about her left arm

philbach · January 23, 2014, 12:01:43 PM

Enclosed is the original and where I am now. I would like to work on the girl's left arm and add some. The questions is what is she doing with her forearm. Supporting the Baby or perhaps reaching out to her left. I would appreciate your opinions.

dle · January 23, 2014, 01:31:48 PM

This is coming along well.

My best guess for the girl's left arm is that she's reaching down and a bit to the left for support against the onslaught of two wiggly little ones. I don't think she's using it to support either of the babies.

I agree with your interpretation that the skin we see just below the elbow of the little one who's facing away is his or her back and that he/she is wearing diapers. I wonder, though, if his/her back doesn't curve downwards more just below the elbow shadow than is shown in the WIP. That would let a bit more of the girl's blue top show.

Dunno. The info has been wiped out by the yellow damage, so it's a real judgement call.

philbach · January 23, 2014, 03:13:01 PM

Thanks Dave. My dear wife took a look and said that the "arm" is actually the right arm of the fourth child who is facing away from the camera. So we are looking at the back of the arm. One can see a smidgen of the right forearm. Maybe that is the correct interpretation

Mhayes · January 23, 2014, 09:38:16 PM

Phil, I think your wife is right and it makes more sense because the other girl's head looks too big for the body. This photo is like a jigsaw puzzle trying to fit the pieces together.

Margie

kiska · January 24, 2014, 03:12:24 AM

Here is the blue channel after levels and curves. I don't see a 4th child??

philbach · January 24, 2014, 06:20:52 AM

Well the case for the fourth child is as follows: In the original rgb version it appears to show some of the forearm of the girl in the background. It looks more like the back of the elbow than the front of the elbow. The forearm fragment does not show up well in the blue channel. The other premise is that instead of a chin line on the background girl what is seen is some hair. And the bow on the shoulder strap shoulder strap would be on the back of the shoulder rather than the front (I guess ^-^).

bjtx · January 24, 2014, 01:53:45 PM

could the girl's arm be something like this?
To me, she seems to bending forward, somewhat twisted, supporting the babies in a hug-like fashion,
She seems thin & her thin upper arm/elbow are jutted slightly backward. The forearm & head seem a little too large, probably because they are nearer to the camera then the rest of her body.

fwiw: I don't see a 4th child. However, it sure might be there.

kiska · January 24, 2014, 02:09:03 PM

I agree... very rough.

philbach · January 24, 2014, 02:55:56 PM

Well Kiska and Betty that was where I was going with this before I got distracted. And along these lines the skin that I could see on the blue channel above the diaper was not from baby #2's skin but in fact was part of the left hand from background child #3. That does make sense and I will run with that. Thanks for your help.