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Title: Just Married
Post by: Lynnya on April 07, 2019, 12:59:19 PM
Hi All,  Jo Ann if your are out there in the North Western mist can you outline the fingers on this image..I can see the fingers and thumb to my right but I'm a bit confused about the others, I can see a finger nail but then I'm lost..
Thank you in anticipation of me being able to finish this restore  :cool:

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-n8Qh56Q/0/5140ce88/XL/i-n8Qh56Q-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on April 08, 2019, 06:39:28 PM
I'm not at home this week - sorry I didn't see this until just now. If you hold your fingers like the bride is holding hers, thumb pressed to index finger and the middle finger next to it, pointing straight out, the only position for the other two fingers is straight, I think. I can't curl my ring and pinkie fingers if the other three are as shown.

The ring and pinkie perhaps look foreshortened because of the angle at which the photo was taken?

I have laptop with me but no tablet/stylus and drawing with my finger on the laptop touch pad won't be much use to you :)
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Lynnya on April 10, 2019, 04:13:21 PM
Thanks Jo Ann.. that's helpful.. I have company this week so will finish up next week.. Appreciate the help.
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Mhayes on April 12, 2019, 12:23:17 AM
Great idea and maybe use someone to put their hands in the same position on a man's shoulder.
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Lynnya on April 12, 2019, 07:25:43 AM
Thanks Margie..great minds think alike..was doing that today  :up:
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Shadow on April 12, 2019, 02:38:44 PM
No wisdom to add. Good luck! Know you'll make it look good as new.  :)
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Lynnya on April 13, 2019, 10:47:11 AM
Thanks Shadow.. hmmm... we'll see.. :cool:
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Lynnya on April 15, 2019, 11:34:28 AM
Hi gang.. family all departed on their cruise so now I have my spare room back  :up: here is where I'm at with this image.. what needs doing please.. I know the hand position is different but I just can't seem to get it to go that way... :-\

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-dGLBLQG/0/51d1e016/L/i-dGLBLQG-L.jpg)   (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-tcdVw4S/0/115ccc56/L/i-tcdVw4S-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Shadow on April 15, 2019, 02:03:46 PM
Hey there. Good work so far. There are some blown highlights and maybe the shadows could be opened up some? Wondering about asking the distributor if you could eliminate the hand? Just a thought. Good luck.


(https://i.postimg.cc/4Y2SjjcP/2019-04-15-Just-Married.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4Y2SjjcP)
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on April 15, 2019, 02:10:15 PM
As far as shapes, take a look at partial outlines over the blue channel and then over your WIP. I think you have some of the bride's hair and head piece different from the original, and the hand doesn't come up that high in the original.

I think you can fudge the two fingers a bit as long as the thumb and two forefingers, and body of the hand, follow the orignal a little more closely. See what you think


(https://i.postimg.cc/QBkVsp3W/Bride-n-groom-headshot-explain.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QBkVsp3W)
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: kiska on April 15, 2019, 02:25:49 PM
Maybe something close to this. VERY rough.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7J52DhWJ/Screen-Shot-2019-04-15-at-12-22-09-PM.png) (https://postimg.cc/7J52DhWJ)
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Lynnya on April 15, 2019, 02:57:59 PM
Thanks Lyn, JoAnn and Kiska.. will work on these suggestions and repost.. :up:
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Lynnya on April 15, 2019, 04:06:10 PM
hard... very hard...need help.. took Lyn's suggestions and the best I could do with JoAnn's and Kiska's.. the new hand is basically the original with a new pinky..and a no hand version....

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-j6KcSWZ/0/151ad465/L/i-j6KcSWZ-L.jpg)  (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-tLcHMkW/0/22142627/L/i-tLcHMkW-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on April 15, 2019, 05:04:21 PM
Take a look at this quick cloning job to see what you think. I tidied up the original hand (on the thumb and first two fingers) and then made the ring finger by rotating the index finger and fixing a little, then just showed the edge of the pinkie, which is shorter than the ring


(https://i.postimg.cc/HJKjW849/Bride-n-groom-headshot-hand-fix.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HJKjW849)
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Mhayes on April 16, 2019, 12:24:50 AM
Wow, this looks great!
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Hannie on April 16, 2019, 04:19:30 AM
Hands are so hard to draw, great job!
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Lynnya on April 16, 2019, 08:14:12 AM
Thanks so much JoAnn.. will attempt to copy that.. if I can't I may have to turn it over to you to complete 8)  if you don't mind..  I'll have a go at it and see if I can replicate..
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on April 16, 2019, 12:17:26 PM
I'd be happy to help more if needed, but see how things go :)
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Lynnya on April 16, 2019, 01:26:06 PM
Thanks JoAnn...
How is this coming..

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-9k2CT8b/0/35e539ee/L/i-9k2CT8b-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on April 16, 2019, 02:18:22 PM
That hand is looking good!! You'll want to look closely at the thumb - in the above WIP you've lost the part between the nail and the main body of the hand. There needs to be a bit more of the thumb so it connects.

Also, the whole hand is shifted to the picture's left a fraction - if it's on a separate layer, perhaps you nudged it a bit? If you can nudge it back without redoing anything that'd be best (but I wouldn't re-clone things if you can't move it independently).

I think that with the toned down highlights Shadow suggested a few posts back, you're good.

The finish line is in sight :)
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Lynnya on April 16, 2019, 02:35:54 PM
Thanks JoAnn and Lyn for all your help... I'll fix that thumb and send them home.. :hug:
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Shadow on April 16, 2019, 04:04:05 PM
Wonderful Lynn! They are going to be so happy.  :up: :up:
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Mhayes on April 17, 2019, 12:41:10 AM
Beautiful! The funny part is that I remember this couple, which is something I don't usually do when there are so many. Hopefully this will put the wife of today in a better frame of mine than she was at the copy run.  ::)
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Lynnya on April 17, 2019, 09:03:13 AM
Thanks Margie.. that hand nearly got the better of me... thank goodness for JoAnn who can draw... :loveit:
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Candice on April 20, 2019, 10:16:14 AM
Boy what a great job on this couple!  Lovely!!!
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Marydh on April 20, 2019, 12:14:28 PM
Beautiful job!
Title: Re: Just Married
Post by: Lynnya on April 20, 2019, 12:34:59 PM
Thanks Candy and Mary... I had a lot of help  :hug: