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Title: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Lynnya on December 06, 2018, 11:16:18 AM
Working on this one... what needs doing please gang..

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zKNdv3T/0/c711c8e8/L/i-zKNdv3T-L.jpg)  (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-bNDfnWv/1/d0a3dee4/L/i-bNDfnWv-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on December 06, 2018, 12:33:11 PM
Very pretty shot. I think she still looks just slightly too yellow (and you could mask her hair out of any further tweaking to keep the lovely auburn tones there; it's the skin that I noticed).

I also saw that you filled in a gap in her hair at the back - it looks good as you have it, although I don't think that was damage to the photo - perhaps ask the distributor if that's OK as it's not really restoration?
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Lynnya on December 06, 2018, 03:03:43 PM
Hi Jo Ann.. thanks for input.. yeah.. I wondered about the white in the hair.. it seemed to me to be just on the face a bit so I went with the damage  ::) - I had her skin more magenta/red but the numbers in cmyk for skin tones were way out.. not enough yellow.. it's still low on my info panel.. on my monitor she doesn't look yellow.. I wonder if its a monitor thing.. I'll hang out here for a day or so and see who else chips in.
Thanks
Lynn
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Shadow on December 06, 2018, 04:01:03 PM
Really nice cleanup Lynn. This is a quickie and I may totally wet here ... see what you think. Could still use a wee bit of tweaking. (Isk your color sampler tool set to 5 x5? Might make a difference.)

Numbers for last wip
(https://i.postimg.cc/4mmYCmp3/2018-12-06-Red-Headed-beauty-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4mmYCmp3)

CMYK ratio explanation
(https://i.postimg.cc/jDfC5mg0/2018-12-06-Red-Headed-beauty-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jDfC5mg0)

Added Curves and tweaked blue channel
(https://i.postimg.cc/LqM5ZDwq/2018-12-06-Red-Headed-beauty-3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LqM5ZDwq)
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Hannie on December 07, 2018, 03:04:15 AM
Sometimes the numbers don't work so well and I try just going by what the eye sees and what appears pleasing for skin tones.

The image is a little yellow, |I also find the original skin tone appears to be somewhat lighter than the WIP?

(https://i.postimg.cc/Lq0Qzy5B/lighter-skin.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Lq0Qzy5B)
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Lynnya on December 07, 2018, 08:32:11 AM
Thanks Lyn and Hannie...

Still not sure re skin.. and eagle eyes what else am I missing.. you know I'm nearly blind lol..

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-JvcbrSr/0/9d65af70/L/i-JvcbrSr-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: kiska on December 07, 2018, 08:53:07 AM
Sometimes when I get  difficult skin tones I make a cmyk copy and tinker in curves, copy and paste on the rgb image.


(https://i.postimg.cc/0rTLKyrQ/Screen-Shot-2018-12-07-at-7-49-36-AM.png) (https://postimg.cc/0rTLKyrQ)
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Shadow on December 07, 2018, 09:44:46 AM
Yep, agree with Hannie. By the numbers looks too yellow. Do your best and get hubby to give it a look see.  ;)   You'll get it!
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Lynnya on December 07, 2018, 10:24:43 AM
hmm maybe not Lyn  :funny: I started to follow Kiska's tip but after converting to cmyk and looking at the numbers I have no idea how to fix it.. the yellow is supposed to be sort of equal to the magenta and is lower.. I don't understand how it's looking so yellow..my last wip was Hannie's tip and I thought it looked better...I was about to do a curves but as you can see I didn't touch it....HELP...

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-bk246Sj/0/370ddc61/XL/i-bk246Sj-XL.jpg)

Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on December 07, 2018, 10:32:45 AM
That screen shot - the colors on the picture - looks pretty good to me. What that suggests is that you might have color calibration problems with your monitor.

In other words, when you get something looking good on your monitor, the values are actually incorrect in the file - which when interpreted on a calibrated monitor according to the embedded profile and the numerical values looks off.

How confident are you in your monitor's color accuracy?
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Lynnya on December 07, 2018, 11:55:29 AM
Hj Jo Ann ...hmm..I hear you..well my monitor is not calibrated but I've never had any color issues before..
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Lynnya on December 07, 2018, 01:07:23 PM
O.K. gang.. am I getting there? or no...

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-JbZfXD9/1/5bbcff9f/L/i-JbZfXD9-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Hannie on December 07, 2018, 02:55:10 PM
Windows has a built in utility to check your monitor's colors.
(I have not used it myself, my monitor is hardware calibrated)

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-calibrate-your-monitor/

Edit:  your last version looks pretty good to me.
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Lynnya on December 07, 2018, 03:02:38 PM
Thanks Hannie I'll check that out..
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Lynnya on December 07, 2018, 03:18:16 PM
Jo Ann? Kiska? Shadow? - comments?  :cool: What more needs doing.. ?
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Shadow on December 07, 2018, 03:56:03 PM
Looks good to me too Lynn! Well done.  :up:
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: kiska on December 07, 2018, 04:35:16 PM
Took little cyan and black out. Looks a little healthier.

(https://i.postimg.cc/2qqJJ6wR/Screen-Shot-2018-12-07-at-3-33-07-PM.png) (https://postimg.cc/2qqJJ6wR)
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Lynnya on December 07, 2018, 04:55:48 PM
Thanks Lyn and thanks Kiska.. she does look healthier.. I'll fix that..
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Lynnya on December 07, 2018, 05:12:20 PM
Any better? need more? let me know.. I want it to be the best it can..

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-sv4nrfs/0/295605b3/L/i-sv4nrfs-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: kiska on December 07, 2018, 05:17:51 PM
 :up:
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Shadow on December 07, 2018, 05:20:50 PM
Way to hang in there.  :up:

Kiska, just for us slow ones ... did you convert to CMYK, tweak the Cyan and black and then convert back to RGB?
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: kiska on December 07, 2018, 05:42:58 PM
I copied the rgb image. Converted the copy to cmyk. Tweaked with curves. Copy/paste the cmyk onto the rgb.
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Marydh on December 07, 2018, 06:08:29 PM
Lynn, I think she looks beautiful.
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on December 07, 2018, 06:47:59 PM
Looks very nice indeed :)
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Lynnya on December 07, 2018, 08:52:27 PM
 :wnw: :wnw: :wnw: :wnw:
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Hannie on December 08, 2018, 02:44:07 AM
 :up:
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Lynnya on December 08, 2018, 08:39:04 AM
Thanks everyone  :loveit:
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: coopmj on December 08, 2018, 06:52:40 PM
She's gorgeous—great job! :up:
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Mhayes on December 08, 2018, 10:48:52 PM
Beautiful!
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: WollyR on December 09, 2018, 07:06:15 AM
wooow..  :wnw:

(noticed there's so much more to learn!!)
Title: Re: Red Headed Beauty
Post by: Lynnya on December 09, 2018, 11:08:01 AM
Well thank you again gang.. gotta lotta help from my friends  :loveit: