Any comments or suggestions on this before I proceed?
(https://i.postimg.cc/0b2qX196/Peters-R-14-11-8x10.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0b2qX196)
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No it's lookin good so far.. good luck I'll look forward to your final.. sweet baby huH?
Thanks, yep, sweet baby. Makes you wonder what kind of disaster it went through and if he is ok.
Good luck with your new one.
Very cute baby!
I don't think your colors are right - the dungarees are cyan and the baby's skin looks a bit magenta and gray. Take a look at this version (just for color; I didn't clean up any damage)
(https://i.postimg.cc/0bw2HPzk/Peters-R-14-11-8x10-edited.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0bw2HPzk)
Assuming you're doing things in layers and non-destructively, you should be able to adjust the tones and keep all your cloning so far. After getting the overall colors right, the reds were a bit oversaturated, so I added a hue/saturation adjustment layer and pulled down just the reds until they didn't "glow"
Here's an example (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/96/0c/3a/960c3aee18d204818c19e66f6c6e073c.jpg) of the colors of these dungarees (typically)
OK, thanks, I will work on the color of the coveralls. I saw the red just hadn't addressed it yet, was going to get all the damage out then hit the reds. I used one of the channels because it showed less damage. Will doing that affect the skin and coverall colors? Thanks again.
I assume you were using the blue channel. It does have less damage, but it will alter all the colors unless you take additional steps.
You can correct it - some combination of masking it out, reducing the opacity, and overlaying layers in color blend mode to get the right colors back. However, given that you can see everything through the damage and the face is largely intact, I think it'd be less work to color correct the whole image and clone the damage out.
The blue channel is invaluable when you can't see anything of some part of the detail in the RGB image as it lets you get that detail back. The "price" of getting that back is that you have to correct colors anywhere you use the blue channel for anything other than being the blue components of the image.
Up to you to figure out the least work to get to a good end result.
I don't know about you but I think this looks a whole lot better. Thank you.
(https://i.postimg.cc/D4fgVXpJ/For-Jo-Ann.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D4fgVXpJ)
Sorry to have to say so, but I think it needs more work.
Look at the bright cyan areas - there's damage as well as a color shift. You'll need to clone to get the stripes back.
The boy's hair on the left is a different color and is sweeping forward vs. down and back
There are grey blotches on the boy's chin and ear.
The metal button holding the shoulder strap on upper left is damaged - you can clone from the intact one lower down
Look at the boy's legs at 100% or 200% and you'll see all sorts of texture and various colors. It should look similar to the undamaged skin under his elbow.
It'll take you some time, but you'll get there!
Oh yes, I know it needs more work, haven't gotten to those repairs yet. I was just reposting to see if you thought I had corrected the color in the coveralls and skin tones well enough. I also saw that the background color changed on me during the color corrections, was to late to mess with it last night. This wasn't meet to be a final ready for the distributor. Thanks
Thanks for pointing out the grey blotches on his skin. Is there a way to avoid that when using the clown tool or is it better just to copy a good section of skin? Also, should I take the red tint in the hair out or do you think that is his natural hair color? Thanks
That's a lovely typo - "...using the clown tool..." :)
The problem with the striped dungarees is that you have darker blue with cyan stripes vs darker blue with grubby white. You'll need to get the overall colors right in the non-damaged areas with whatever method you're using.
As far as the gray blotches on the chin, you need to repair from good skin with similar color and texture if you can. In cases where you can't, you can paint with the right colors (which will look flat and awful at first) and then use the healing brush to apply texture to the color from another skin area that's undamaged. When painting with colors, sometimes using a bit of gaussian blur on the colors after painting and before "texturing" with the healing brush will smooth out the transitions from shade to shade.
I think his hair is a chestnut brown, so there is quite a bit of red in it. Take a look at this other thread (http://www.operationphotorescue.org/forum/index.php/topic,5482.0.html) with the same boy. The shadows on his face, around his eyes, at his hairline etc. all look very red - that's an indication that the reds are a bit oversaturated (i.e. not just in the hair)
LOL, sometimes I think it is the clown tool the way I use it..LOL.. I am working on it. Might be a few days I have to go out of town. I can't begin to tell you how impressed I am with this group and the detail that they achieve in restoring these photos. I had several friends look at this before I posted and nobody mentioned the direction of the hair. Hopefully, one day I want have to ask so many questions. Thanks again.
Hey Alvo.. we've all been where you are and struggled on thru.. you'll do it!! Have a good trip.. we'll all be here when you get back..
Ditto what Lynn said and also, you never know when the question you ask and the feedback you get is what puts it over the top for another member of the group who might not feel comfortable asking for help but checks out the forum for ideas. Have a good trip and we'll see when you get back. :)
Alvo, don't feel bad and I love your typo of "clown tool" as I'm sure sometimes it must feel that way. I like the clone tool for small jobs, but like using layer masks even better. Enjoy your trip and sometimes it can be beneficial to walk away and then come back to your photo.
I don't know if this is the right place to post this or not but I felt like it needed posting. I have found out thru the years that I am not unique, if I am doing something then you can bet lots of others are doing the same thing. I learned a method of setting white balance on YouTube where you go into curves, hold down Alt and select the auto button. This brings up a dialog box where you can select to let curves automatically select your Black and White points. I guess I should have learned on my first photo when Jo Anne pointed out the colors were wrong but I must be a little more hard headed than I thought. After trying every color adjustment tool I could think of to try and match Jo Anne's colors in the coveralls I had this brilliant idea. Why not go back to the original and do a manual white balance. When I did, Bingo, I hit Jo Anne's colors. I even tried an auto white balance and got the same thing I got using auto in curves. I will NEVER use anything auto again while setting a white balance.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pyyN7XpS/Manual-white-balance-versus-auto-white-balance.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pyyN7XpS)
I haven't quite ya'll, working on those strips..
Do you think the circled fold in red will be dark or light blue?
(https://i.postimg.cc/Btd1nmZG/Circled-Fold.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Btd1nmZG)
If you look at the other folds (and you could do searches online of other similar pictures to confirm) I think you will see light on the outside and dark on top and bottom where it's in shadow. Such as this (https://whatthekidswore.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/image1-e1469526821484-768x1024.jpg) and this (https://www.jojomamanbebe.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1000x/cc44d3b39965d3efd15a8158cb2fdfb4/d/2/d2139l1.jpg).
Think about where the light appears to be coming from and where it will be blocked by something in the image and you'll generally be able to match up the damaged areas to the rest.
Be Gentle Jo Ann..LOL
(https://i.postimg.cc/WqPkcZ2x/Peters-R-14-11-8x10.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WqPkcZ2x)
(https://i.postimg.cc/qNgXL8gG/First-post-on-OPR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNgXL8gG)
Always . . .
You've made tons of progress and I'd say the end is in sight. Are you looking for input on the cleanups remaining or just showing off those lovely stripes (and your hard work)? :)
Thanks, please give input on what's remaining, all I am seeing is strips and purple tints
I did markup on your latest WIP to show the areas that need attention. If you look at the saturation of the blues & cyans in my version I've taken away the glowing colors (a Hue/Saturation adjustment layer just for blues and cyans).
If you look at the image at 200% you should be able to see all the blemishes clearly - it looks like a lot of areas, but the cleanup will be pretty straightforward (unlike all your work on the damaged stripes which was a long slog)
(https://i.postimg.cc/LgJfG49w/Peters-R-14-11-8x10-thiird-pass-markup.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LgJfG49w)
Thank you very Much, I will get back on it after Thanksgiving. Hope you and yours have a Happy Thanksgiving along with the rest of the folks of OPR.
Jo Ann, Corrected per your suggestions plus some..
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You're making good progress.
I still see some of the items I marked the last time need attention in the most recent work in progress, but you're closing in on the finish line!
Hmmm, I put your mark up photo in PS along side my WIP. As I made corrections I put a red check mark in each circle. All the circles are checked so I made some kind of adjustment at each one plus some you didn't circle. Please indicate what areas you are speaking of so I can go back and look. If it is the inside of the ear there was some orange in there from somewhere and I took that out, otherwise I am not sure what to do with the ear. Thanks.
See if this set of "excerpts" from the image helps you spot the areas that need just a little more attention.
When I layer your latest over your last, I can see you made some changes, but just not all of them - so on the socks, for example, you cleaned up some of the marks in the circled area, but it's still pink instead of white. In the background areas, you did make fixes, but you still have dark areas that don't match the rest of the background.
I've made the patches 200% size to try and make things easier to see, but I've only marked up the things that really stand out when you look at the photo actual size. Getting rid of the gray, blue, pink and orange blotches on the face is more important that other areas as the face is what the family will notice the most.
To try and show the background areas that are different, I've included a smaller version that is more contrasty as it helps outline where you need to blend the darker with the lighter colors.
Also, I notice that your current image has the Adobe RGB color space where the original and your earlier WIP versions were sRGB. Not sure how that happened, but the color space must stay the same as the original damaged image.
(https://i.postimg.cc/grxgLRsZ/Peters-example-patches.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grxgLRsZ)
OK, thanks, this helps a lot. I thought the dark spot in front was a shadow, I blended with the healing brush but looking at the original now I can see what you mean. Back to the drawing board..LOL I am not sure how the grey splotches got in the face, is this something from the clone tool??
Quote from: Alvo on November 26, 2018, 12:33:16 PM
...I am not sure how the grey splotches got in the face, is this something from the clone tool??
I don't know, but if I had to guess, I'd say you used the healing brush and caught a bit of color you didn't mean to that, blended with the skin, made gray. Anywhere near edges or color transitions, you have to be very careful with the healing brush to avoid unwanted color blending.
It sounds contradictory, but I find a combination of looking in great magnification (200% or higher) and zooming out and defocusing the eyes works well. You can see different things each way and it helps you spot anomalies. Also flipping between your current state and the original - anything that moves when you flip, is something to check out.
Alvo, maybe this will help:
in areas where Spot Healing brush does not give satisfactory results try using the Lasso tool and select the area you want to heal.
Then go to Edit-> Fill-> Contents-> Content Aware and then click OK.
You will find that this will give you a much better result, it blends in very nicely without unwanted color changes or spots.
Thanks, I will have to give that a try. I have never thought of using content aware fill like that before. I appreciate your comment.
Thanks Hannah for the Content Aware tip. Jo Ann, on the color mode. my working space is set for Adobe 1998, when I open a pic it ask if I want to use the imbedded profile or change it to Adobe 1998. I must have checked the wrong box by mistake, make sure I have it changed back. Hoping this one can go to the Distributer.
(https://i.postimg.cc/gxzjt5XF/3-RD-Post-on-OPR-Nov-27.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gxzjt5XF)
You can change your Photoshop settings to make things smoother - I have it alert me to an image that has no profile attached, but to honor any embedded profile without asking. For images with profiles embedded, you can use Convert to Profile (not Assign) at any time to change if you see a reason to.
This version looks much better. Send it to your distributor for a final check - best for them to do that versus the forum.
YEAAAAA!! The Photo was approved, thank you for your help, Jo Ann and Hannie..
Good job - you've conquered stripes!!
QuoteGood job - you've conquered stripes!!
Not a small accomplishment. :)
Way to go! :up: