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OPR Workshops => Easy => Topic started by: Lynnya on October 11, 2018, 01:57:31 PM

Title: Smiley
Post by: Lynnya on October 11, 2018, 01:57:31 PM
Hi all, I haven't touched this yet..hoping someone can clarify what is going on with the chair to the right on the screen - in the blue channel it seems to have a big sort of roll in back..I can see the cushion of the baby swing behind and think the back of the chair (if it is the back) is round.. would appreciate some eyes please.. can't get my head around where everything is with the chair..

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TRnZwQM/0/da3a458b/L/i-TRnZwQM-L.jpg)  (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-9pZjJ6B/1/8b1d176d/L/i-9pZjJ6B-L.jpg)
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Post by: Jo Ann Snover on October 11, 2018, 03:40:12 PM
I had a look at this and I am not sure I recognize what's there - other than the world's largest TV remote!

The chair swing and its frame are apparently next to some curtains, so there isn't a ton of space behind the furniture on the right. The puzzle is that the ottoman-like object (with the remote on it) extends out of the frame and the circle that's upright doesn't head off with the longer base. Could it be a bizarre armless love seat with a back that's two circles? That makes no sense.

I thought possibly that what we can see is a side view of a loveseat, so the ottoman is actually the arm of the chair/chair and a half/loveseat. That means the roll that's in shadow is the back of the chair. But it'd be odd to have the sofa against the wall and the chair both facing the same way.

I think you can restore this without knowing exactly what's there though. The fabric on the round bit and the ottoman/arm is the same and the roll is so in shadow, I don't think you have to do much with it.

It does seem clear that the frilly edge of the covering on the swing chair is behind the overstuffed furniture object and not interacting with it in some weird way.

I'm not sure that was any help at all :)
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Post by: Lynnya on October 11, 2018, 04:05:17 PM
Yes great help.. maybe Bambi will let me crop it a bit... ;)
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Post by: Shadow on October 11, 2018, 07:25:19 PM
Good luck!! Know it'll be good.
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Post by: Alvo on October 14, 2018, 11:22:59 AM
I am new so this maybe a silly question. You referred to Bambi, who is Bambi? Is she the person the photo is being restored for and do you actually have contact with the families? Still trying to learn my way around in OPR. Thanks.
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Post by: Shadow on October 14, 2018, 12:03:45 PM
Hi Alvin, Bambi is one our distributors. There are four distributors - Bambi, Jonas, Margie, and Tess. You download your image from one of their galleries and you upload it there as well. They will accept or return your image if it needs some adjustments. One of the nice things about the forum is you can get extra "eyes" on your restoration. Speaking for myself, I always seem to miss something. Posting it here usually means someone else will spot what I missed and then I can tweak my work before sending it home.
Look forward to seeing you soon.
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Post by: Candice on October 14, 2018, 12:14:01 PM
Well said, Shadow.
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Post by: Alvo on October 14, 2018, 12:34:11 PM
Thanks, please tell me if this is not the place to ask these questions. From what I have read you go to the galleries, pick out a photo and comment on it then you will be sent an E mail for download. So that is what I did. I noticed in the gallery there is a download button above the photo, is that where you download it now instead of thru the E mail?
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Post by: Jo Ann Snover on October 14, 2018, 12:49:47 PM
No.

You download full size photos for restorations from a different part of the PhotoShelter interface - My gallery invitations. That is accessed, if you do it directly from the web site, from the My Account link at top left (when logged in), next to the cart button. In my case, I see a link "To Jo Ann Snover" - you'll see your name. Click on that and there's your own gallery of thumbnails. From that you can click the download button and download the original size.

Or, use the link in the email you will get from your distributor :)
Title: Re: Smiley
Post by: Lynnya on October 14, 2018, 05:06:26 PM
Need eyes on this and I know it wanders from the original..  :crazy:

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-tQCXvdN/0/a215eef9/L/i-tQCXvdN-L.jpg)
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Post by: Shadow on October 14, 2018, 05:37:41 PM
Looking good. You've come a long way. Maybe bring the whites down a bit? And his feet seem to have some bluish areas? Final's gonna' be something!
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Post by: Candice on October 14, 2018, 07:40:41 PM
What a cutie!  You're almost home!!
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Post by: Jo Ann Snover on October 14, 2018, 08:11:42 PM
Couple of things - in addition to the comment above about the whites being a little bright on the foreground elements.

You have an odd gray line over part of the graco chair front
The perspective isn't right on the furniture object that used to have the TV remote on it - the lower part should be parallel to the upper, not converging with it.
Shadows: you've lost some of the ones on the original image. On the leg on the left side, the shadow should go up over the sofa skirt; on the leg on the right it should go over the carpet, not stop at the sofa skirt. Perhaps a small shadow under the baby's foot on the left side of the picture like the foot on the right?
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Post by: Lynnya on October 15, 2018, 08:48:29 AM
Thanks Jo Ann... if you have time can you quick demonstrate the perspective and also the shadows... you know how good I am at perspective....  ::)  appreciate your input.
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Post by: Jo Ann Snover on October 15, 2018, 11:18:42 AM
See if this helps explain what I was trying to get at

(https://i.postimg.cc/6Tk9LxsG/Smiley-toddler-in-LR-edits.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6Tk9LxsG)

The cleanups layer was my cloning over your restore. In addition to fixing the perspective on the furniture "thing" on the right, I added the carpet back between the two sofas, fixed the baby's diaper (it had gone down too far) and extended the bottom support of the swing seat.

The shadow layer (set to multiply mode) added back the missing shadows by the baby's leg, on the carpet, etc. and added a skinny one under the fabric skirt at the bottom of the furniture "thing". I started to do a shadow to hint at the piping edge on the "thing" but wasn't really happy with that, so didn't finish. I think it needs a highlight between the shadows if you want it to work better.

The cropped smaller part is from your restore for comparison.

Does that help
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Post by: Lynnya on October 15, 2018, 11:47:55 AM
Certainly does!! Thank you so much for taking the time to do that... I'll follow and it'll be a good improvement.. thanks  :wnw:
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Post by: Lynnya on October 15, 2018, 02:18:30 PM
Hows this... what am I missing? Don't be afraid to be ultra picky... I'd rather it be right. Thanks.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-4chC36R/0/4577fc01/L/i-4chC36R-L.jpg)

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Post by: Jo Ann Snover on October 15, 2018, 02:36:33 PM
It's close. Touch ups needed

-The gray patch on the Graco bar
-Shadow on the carpet next to the right leg - it stops where the fabric meets the carpet and should continue down
-Shadow on the rear sofa skirt by the left leg - it stops where the carpet meets the fabric and should continue up to the diaper

The furniture "thing" looks much better :)
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Post by: Shadow on October 15, 2018, 02:41:23 PM
Wow Lynn. Couple little things ... check the whites on his shirt and diaper and his socks still have a bit of damage. Tiny pic on the furniture thing. Looking at the screen, just up from bottom right, maybe tweak that dark line?
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Post by: Lynnya on October 15, 2018, 03:56:18 PM
???

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-cQGXZs5/0/405beb22/L/i-cQGXZs5-L.jpg)
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Post by: Jo Ann Snover on October 15, 2018, 04:14:58 PM
You picked up a teeny-tiny repeating pattern on the furniture "thing" in your last clone, but otherwise I think you're good. Flip your old and current restore on and off (use browser tabs with the forum versions if that's easier) and you'll see it immediately.

Good thing that kid's so cute :)
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Post by: Lynnya on October 15, 2018, 04:27:01 PM
Thanks for your help Jo Ann and Lyn... I'll fix and send him home  :loveit:
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Post by: Shadow on October 16, 2018, 07:12:39 AM
Beautiful restore Lynn!!  :up:
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Post by: coopmj on October 16, 2018, 11:44:06 AM
Terrific!!
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Post by: Lynnya on October 16, 2018, 12:08:56 PM
Thanks guys.. it was fun.. and a learning curve.. :up:
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Post by: Marydh on October 16, 2018, 05:17:15 PM
Great job.  That thing was a mess.