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Title: Baby Newton
Post by: smceachron on March 14, 2012, 06:54:47 PM
This one is a toughie.  Does anyone have any suggestions on improving this after photo?  Thanks for your suggestions. ~ Sandi
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: smceachron on March 15, 2012, 12:49:50 AM
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/NewtonT_20__15_4x6beforeandafter-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: Hannie on March 15, 2012, 06:55:38 AM
Hi Sandi,

Thanks for posting your work!
It would be great if you could post the original before any corrections as well, like I did below.
It is the original plus a color corrected version.  There is a large yellow stain so I also lowered the yellow saturation.

One thing that jumped out at me is that baby in your restore is a little squashed, did you use the warp tool or any other tool that changes perspective?

Hannie

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/marijtje2/OPR/babynewton.jpg)
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: smceachron on March 15, 2012, 08:27:00 PM
Hannie,  Let me do that again.  I thought I had the original first.  Putting the two photos on a 4 X 6 canvas, I did have to squash the photos in a little.  Is there a better way?  Thx, Sandi
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: smceachron on March 15, 2012, 08:38:26 PM
Here is the correct version of Newton baby before and after.  In order to correct the red tinge on the wall I had to separate the wall, baby and bed. 
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: smceachron on March 15, 2012, 08:39:08 PM
Bunny Rabbits forgot to add the new photo. ~ Sandi
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/NewtonT_20__15_4x6beforeandafter-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: Hannie on March 16, 2012, 07:33:09 AM
Sandi, when you post your before and after together as one image it will not have the 4x6 ratio and neither should it.
Just double the size of the canvas of one photo and paste the other on to it, then the photos will stay in the right size.  If that is too hard you can also post each photo individually.

Hannie
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: Mhayes on March 16, 2012, 01:01:52 PM
Or Sandi you can do as the others do and that is upload both the before and after to Photobucket and then copy the link for each one and paste into the post. I personally perfer the photos to be separated rather than together. That way if a person want to download to work or check on one or the other, they can do so.

Margie
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: smceachron on March 17, 2012, 12:46:38 AM
Margie,  That's a great idea and I like it much better. I'll do that right now. Thx, Sandi

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/NewtonT_20__15_4x6.jpg)

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/NewtonT_20__15_4x6babyworking3.jpg)
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: Tori803 on March 20, 2012, 11:50:32 AM
Hi Sandi,

If you apply a levels adjustment and look at the far right (our right) of the photo, away from where the yellow stain is in the middle, you can still see pink in the wallpaper. The white and green pattern on the far left looks like the color was washed out of the photo by the flash. My impression is that the pink color belongs in the wallpaper.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7112/6853943252_ba93a1eb38_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: smceachron on March 20, 2012, 02:23:24 PM
I wasn't sure if the wallpaper was pink or green.  I'll go back and change the levels again to adjust for pink, that would help with the pink in the bed spread.  Thank you for your suggestion.  You solved that mystery. ~ Sandi
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: smceachron on March 20, 2012, 11:52:23 PM
Hi Tori, Here is the pink wall paper and I'm not happy with that.  It looks too pale (I have it as a pink gradient) and the bed spread's gamma is way out there. If I reign that in it becomes green.  Funny, the wall paper keeps coming up green.  Hmmmm.  ~ Thx, Sandi

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/NewtonT_20__15_4x6.jpg)

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/NewtonT_20__15_4x6babyworking4.jpg)
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: Mhayes on March 21, 2012, 01:47:35 AM
Hi Sandi,

Let's not go down this path with a pink gradient.  :knuppel: In fact it is better not to use a gradient on an 8 bit jpg because it may show banding on the printed photo. Plus, the wall paper is not all pink. Tori's restore is fine and I'm not against yours that had more of the green. I'm even thinking that the pink could be reflected off of the baby's blanket from the flash.

Margie
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: smceachron on March 21, 2012, 06:15:07 PM
OK, no gradient and I'll re-do mine to match Tori's photo.  Thank you for the heads up about the 8 bit and the possible banding.  I usually work in 32 bit.  It's easy to forget that.  Thank you soooooooo much. ~ Sandi
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: smceachron on March 22, 2012, 10:47:33 PM
Hi again,
I went back to the original, worked with the levels and this is what came up.  I can't seem to get rid of the blue in the lower left corner.  Arrrrgh!    What do you guys think? 
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/NewtonT_20__15_4x6.jpg)

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/NewtonT_20__15_4x66.jpg) :-\



Thank you for your help. ~ Sandi
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: Hannie on March 23, 2012, 04:44:00 AM
Sandi, for the blue in the left corner you can add a layer set to color.  Zoom in large and frequently sample from the good colors in the bedspread to restore the pink and white part there.

Hannie
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: smceachron on March 23, 2012, 02:00:08 PM
Hannie,  I was close to that idea, but needed that last thought to push through.  I guess I had a roadblock.  Thank you ~ Sandi
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: smceachron on March 24, 2012, 12:36:09 AM
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/NewtonT_20__15_4x6working7.jpg)

I finally got rid of the blue tinge on the bed spread.  Hopefully that was all.  Thanks, ~ Sandi
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: smceachron on April 17, 2012, 08:41:06 PM
Hi Bambi,

Here is the before and after Baby Newton.  I had not heard from anyone so I was not sure if it was OK or not.

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/NewtonT_20__15_4x6done-1.jpg)

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/NewtonT_20__15_4x6-2.jpg)

~ Sandi
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: G3User on April 19, 2012, 08:46:46 PM
Hi Sandi,

Like many,  this looks easier than it is. You have managed to tame much of the yellow stain but there are still traces of it on the baby's vest, the bedspread and the bedhead.

Not sure how you have been reducing it so far but more of the same should help.

Since the problem is in the yellow chan I converted to CYMK, used calculations on the Cyan and Magenta chan to create an new chan and copy/pasted it in place of the original yellow. Needs more work but that might be another approach

(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/atholg/demo.jpg)

Athol
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: smceachron on April 20, 2012, 06:09:56 PM
I'm not sure how I manage to get these tough ones, anyway thank you for the CYMK suggestion and pasting the yellow channel.  Didn't think to go CYMK.  Thank you for the suggestion.  Good idea.  I thought I had gotten all that blasted yellow out.  Thank you for the second set of eyes. ~ Sandi
Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: smceachron on April 20, 2012, 07:25:13 PM
Hi,  I tried to eliminate the yellow tinges.  I hope this is better.  What do you think? ~ Sandi

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/smceachron/NewtonT_20__15_4x6working8.jpg)

Title: Re: Baby Newton
Post by: Bambi on April 21, 2012, 05:10:25 PM
I think this one's done, Sandi. Looks beautiful.

Bambi