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Our river at dusk

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[Mike S.]

Hello everyone,

See the original and Work in Progress below.  Please let me know if there are any suggestions for improvement.  Happy to make any changes.

Thank you,

Original



WIP

[kiska]

Damage control, great. BUT these folks are too yaller. It's best to color correct before anything else. This needs more tweaking, but a start:

[Mike S.]

I agree Kiska,

How about this one.

WIP2




My only concern at this point is the little girls dress is white but the woman's blouse is suppose to be an off-white, did I go to far?

[Mhayes]

Hi Mike,

When you look at your restore the man looks too dark and over saturated, but when I downloaded, it looks perfect and the color great. I'll let Kiska weigh in on the blouse, but I think it looks beautiful. I really wish my browser would show the colors correctly.

Margie

[Mike S.]

Margie, I converted to Adobe RGB and saved for the web.  The result is below.  How does it look on your browser?  Kiska, how does the blouse look?

RGB for the Web

[Mhayes]

Mike, that is amazing the difference between the two because of the color profile. The blouse looks fine, wouldn't change a thing. It will be interesting to see if those on Internet Explorer see the difference as well between identical photos, but different color profiles.

Margie

[Mike S.]

Thanks for the post Margie,

I will send it home now.

[Tess (Tassie D)]

That is interesting with the 2 photos side by side. The RGB profile looks quite washed out and the dark areas like the mans hair and shirt are almost hazy.
I definitely prefer the sRGB one.

[Mike S.]

Thanks Tess,

I agree.  It's fantastic when great minds think the same or at least in this case at least you have one of the great minds.

At the risk of starting a controversy.  Pat & I were talking about this.  Adobe RGB has a wider colorspace than sRGB but in this case we end of with less.  My feeling is when you start out with a lesser color space and try and convert to a greater there is nothing extra to gain so you actually lose.   At least it would apprear so.

[Mhayes]

I think you have a point, but what I wish is that IE would would follow the color profile. When Pat posted the results of her little girl, it did not look good on my monitor with IE and I'm happy that my monitor does a good job---MultiSync P221W. I was hoping the posting as Adobe RGB would help as the NAPP tutorial suggested---it did in some ways, but left the photos washed out. Neither of the two were what Pat's photo looked like when I downloaded her finished restore.

I came across this on the Internet and not sure about the date, but it may answer the question because it tells that what happens when you convert one to the other.

 http://www.jseaman.com/articles/srgb.html

Margie

[Tess (Tassie D)]

Interesting reading Margie. It explains the washed out colours.

I wonder does everyone run a colour profile for their monitor? I always have and wonder if thats why I don't see a lot of this colour shift?

[Pat]

Hi Tess,

What monitor do you have and what calibration device and software do you use?  We have the Color Munki.

Pat

[Mhayes]

Tess, my monitor can do sRGB and 96% of Adobe RGB. Here is a link that explains the specs: http://www.momentcorp.com/review/nec-multisync-p22w1.html

I have PhotoShop set to Adobe RGB as my working color profile, but when I open up OPR photos I leave them set at the sRGB since they have to be that way when I upload. Occasionally I might switch over to LAB and back since it will not degrade the photo. I don't have a color profile for a printer as I found it cheaper and less of a headache to send my photos to a photo lab. I do have a color laser printer but not for photos.

Margie

Footnote: Color profile options in Photoshop. Note the description at the bottom.



The bottom line for posting photos on the forum is to download the posted photo when in doubt about the color and then it will depend on what you have your color profile set to.

[Tess (Tassie D)]

Porbably didn't explain myself very well. I meant the colour profile which is suited to your monitor rather than software. I don't like MS choosing a default settingsalways hunt down the correct one for the monitor. Its in the advanced settings for your display.

[Hannie]

I do run a color profile on both monitors through my Huey calibrator.,

I use Internet Explorer and I also see a big difference between the sRGB en Adobe RGB on both display
(Samsung 970P and Lenovo W701 with WUXGA (RGB LED), 100% AdobeRGB Color Gamut, 280 Nit)

The Lenovo color settings are very elaborate, color management profile is HueyPro D65 G2.2 A0.00.
One tab on the settings is called Monitor Color.  There you can choose temps and there is a choice of Native, sRGB or AdobeRGB.
When it is set to Native, browser images are too red.  When set to either sRGB or AdobeRGB the colors are very close to what I see when I open a browser image in photoshop.

Hannie