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« on: July 20, 2011, 06:31:48 PM »

This is my current problem child. I think it is as good as it gets. Did I overlook something?
As always, I appreciate any input, critique etc...
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2011, 07:29:00 PM »

GP, your restore (congrats on successfully handling the pinstripes, BTW) has a decided blue cast in the shadows. This is distracting.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2011, 09:01:50 PM »

Ooops, sorry about that! It looked different on my color calibrated monitor. Here is hopefully a better version.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2011, 09:30:12 AM »

Hi GP,

That's what I like to see is a volunteer who shows a love for a certain type of photo. Let me see if we have any more to send you.  Too Funny  I think it looks great and the only thing I might suggest is doing a very subtle S Curve in a Curves Adjustment to increase the contrast just a little.

Great to have you back on the forum!

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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2011, 11:54:52 AM »

To me, the left hand side (his right) looked a little bit like a person was not in the suit.  After downloading it, I wondered if that side was just lightened whether it would look better, so I did a dodge and burn layer.  Unfortunately then the color is a bit off so it would need some hue adjustment.  It does make that side look better, IMO, though.  (I had just done something where a hand looked huge, and it really looked far better after lightening it some, so the experience was fresh in my mind)

Do a non-careful one and see what you think.  I also tried filling out the lower part (say 1 inch) of the sleeve on that side a tiny bit so the line of the sleeve on the left hand side is straight rather than cupping in to the right at the bottom.  I thought all this helped, myself.


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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2011, 12:40:02 PM »

Something like this maybe.

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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2011, 04:00:12 PM »

Sorry, that was bad of me, I was worrying about the hue and wanted to piddle with it some more. I ended up using a hue/saturation layer and changing that whole side of the suit.  Didn't get the hue perfect, but I think with fiddling it would work.  Also played with the arm some.  My hands are shaky today and I couldn't do fine detail at all, ended up copying and pasting to get the effect.  It is such a small amount it would be better to clone it or something but that seemed to be beyond my coordination.  You'll see there is a funny little line that got in there that I just left.

Don't know, this didn't seem to bother anyone else, but here are my efforts.



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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2011, 04:15:05 PM »

I don't understand the concern with hue. The photo should be black/white. Do levels, curves, convert to b/w and then make repairs.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2011, 05:01:55 PM »

Thank you all for your input, it always helps to look at it from a different perspective.

Judy, I understand what you mean, but the outline of his right arm is exactly as it was in the original and I don't think it should be changed. I agree however, that his right side may need a little additional work to get the shading right. That's why I posted it here.  Grin

Kiska, your back&white conversion looks a little bit harsh to me. Since this is a fairly old portrait I don't believe the color should be that dark. The original looks more like a sepia tone. But I will just upload two versions to Hannie and let her decide.  Cool

I will be back with the final version soon.  Thumbs up
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2011, 09:10:32 PM »

Kiska, I thought it was generally recommended to convert to b/w at the very end.  Anyhow, why wasn't that concern voiced when Lurch mentioned the blue shadows (which I didn't see at all actually). 

As GP understood, the main thing was the effect of the heavy shadow over the right side of the man -- to my eye it made that whole side look shrunken, like there was nothing underneath the suit.  Maybe it was actually, who knows.  We all are sensitive to different things, but he looks somewhat deformed to me. and doesn't except for that arm in the original photo. 

Judy

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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2011, 03:40:27 AM »

Hi Gerlinde,

Great restore so far! I like Margie's suggestion for a little more contrast and what if you darkened the left area (shoulder) just a little?

Hannie



mm, looks a little too dark now!


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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2011, 03:57:35 PM »

Hannie, I think this looks pretty good.

I think the reason the man's arm on your left doesn't look good is because of the perspective of the photo and how he is positioned.

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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2011, 03:35:47 PM »

This is now my final version of this portrait. I'm not completely happy with his suit, but I am not able to get it any better. The more I try, the more I mess it up. Angry

                           
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2011, 05:49:29 PM »

Hi GP,

I really like that the sides are more even in color now.  I know what you mean about reaching a point you just make things worse.

Good job!

Judy
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