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Author Topic: Brown's Girl Portrait #2  (Read 2217 times)
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« on: March 30, 2011, 06:46:45 PM »

This is just a rough start to the second of three portraits of this young girl. They are not getting any easier... Cheesy

 

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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2011, 10:01:46 AM »

Been avoiding the critical area, but the background is coming together.... I love it!
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2011, 10:59:30 AM »

So far so good. Can't wait to see what you do with that face!
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2011, 11:39:15 AM »

You put in a lot of careful work with those books -great job!

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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2011, 09:08:06 AM »

Thanks for the positive vibes, they definitely help on these bears! I have done a bit more but want to get some feedback on where others see the face's center line is. I have marked my stab at it. You may have to go back to a previous version if the skin tone coloring changes, especially around the eyes is throuwing you off.



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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 05:34:28 AM »

Hi Gary, I think your mark for the face center line is right.
I don't envy you on this project...

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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2011, 09:09:24 AM »

Okay, here is the latest WIP on this one... As always comments and suggestions welcome.
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2011, 12:49:41 PM »

Hi Gary, I can't imagine tackling a photo this damaged.  You've put in a lot of hard work on it and have some impressive results.  I really like the way you kept the texture of the girl's dress.  The iris of her eye (on the left as you look at her) does seem to grab attention as being a little too large though.

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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2011, 01:53:38 PM »

Hi Gary,

I founds this in the green channel, it may be of help for the girl's mouth, eyebrows and jawline?
(seems like her mouth is closed)

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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2011, 03:06:46 PM »

I don't know but that looks like a big teethy grin to me... (even larger than what I already had started so I need to look at the green channel up close again.
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2011, 03:57:09 PM »

The last version is an illustration, not a restoration. That said, it's not clear what else you might have done. On a masochistic streak, are we Wink?

I do agree with Pat about the eye, and with Hannie about the grin. Also, take a look at the slope of her forehead and the line of the subject's left arm relative to the sleeve. Both seem off to me.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2011, 06:36:26 PM »

Lurch I don't like doing a complete makeover instead of a "restoration" either, but I don't see how to do it on this one. The eyes still need to be worked so they do look off. I am not following what you mean about the  slope of the head and the arm sleeve thing...can you superimpose some lines to show what you mean?

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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2011, 06:43:51 PM »

Gary what you've done is admirable but i reckon it's a non-restore.  I didn't give this one a second look when it was in the gallery. I love a challenge, but all this photo can be is an artistic representation of a photo. The fragments of face have crumbled, and shifted around. Da Vinci wouldn't be able to get this looking like a photograph again.  Sad

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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2011, 08:32:38 PM »

Gary,

I know what you mean about a non-restore. While I haven't learned to do the "painting" there are times I think there maybe enough good material to try healing or the patch tool. What you have done is better that nothing.

Anyway time for my picks: I like what you did with the ear in the one used for the face center line. It looks to have a little hair at the top of the ear. In the other versions you have taken that out. Looking at the original it is anyone guess what is there.

I think the shadow on the nose comes down too far. To me it makes her look as if she has a broken nose. Or maybe the nostrils are too prominent. There is something there that makes the nose look odd to me.

I agree about the size of the right eye, and the other earlier comments. Fixing the eye may help what to me seems like too much face on her right side.

You might try giving a little more space between the eyebrows. To me the original doesn't look as close together as you have them.

Keep up the good work on this toughie. Personally I run the other way when I see ones like this one.

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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2011, 08:50:22 PM »

As requested, here are outlines showing how I would make the subject's cutout. Have taken the liberty to add some, and to tag as damage a white spot that might e interpreted as mouth. HTH.
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